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Started by Pete Gregory
Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:03
multiple SCEDs on one LAN
Author: Pete Gregory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:03
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:03
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Hi - PTX 1.1.1 here on 3xS27's + 2xS81's... One of our S81's has enough tcp connections that we've had to buy a second SCED card (each SCED card will carry up to 256 tcp connections, a hard limit). We want to put it on the same LAN as the first, as our entire organization operates on one big LAN (composed of 400 PC's, 30 UNIX workstations, 6 UNIX mainframes, and numerous printer servers). The idea here is that some people would telnet to the first SCED card, and others to the second SCED card, thereby distributing the tcp-connections load evenly among the two SCED cards and avoiding problems by overflowing one or the other. When the two SCED cards' IP addresses are set to be 89.0.0.5 and 89.0.0.40, the second SCED card end up transmitting ALL outbound packets; netstat -i looks like this: Name Mtu Network Address Ipkts Opkts Odrop loop 1536 loopback-ne loopback 0 0 0 se1 1500 89.0.0.5 john2 664420 1480083 0 se0 1500 89.0.0.40 john 1347890 0 0 ...as you can see, the first SCED card sends no outbound packets; hence, the second SCED card ends up trying to carry > 255 tcp connections. Something else I've tried: using IP addresses on different network numbers (ie. 89.0.0.5 and 88.0.0.40), but we can't reach the 2nd SCED card, even when I manually put entries for the 2nd SCED card in all machines' ARP tables. Bottom line question: how does one configure 2-SCEDs-on-1-LAN system ??? Unisys (our OEM vendor) hasn't been much help. -- Pete Gregory | Internet: pete@wvus.org UNIX SA | Bangpath: ames!elroy!wvus!pete World Vision U.S. | Slowpath: 919 W. Huntington Dr., Monrovia, CA 91016
Re: multiple SCEDs on one LAN
Author: Curt Welch
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:52
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:52
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In comp.sys.sequent, pete@wvus.org (Pete Gregory) writes: >Hi - PTX 1.1.1 here on 3xS27's + 2xS81's... > >One of our S81's has enough tcp connections that we've had to buy a second >SCED card (each SCED card will carry up to 256 tcp connections, a hard >limit). I find this tcp limit very hard too believe. What does the SCED card have to do with TCP? Did they move the TCP/IP code into the SCED card for PTX? It certainly has nothing to do with TCP in our Sequent S27 runing Dynix V3.0.17.9. If there's a limit of 256 TCP connections I wouldn't expect it to be in the SCED card. It would be a kernel problem. What happens when you reach this limit? >The idea >here is that some people would telnet to the first SCED card, and others to >the second SCED card, thereby distributing the tcp-connections load evenly >among the two SCED cards and avoiding problems by overflowing one or the >other. >When the two SCED cards' IP addresses are set to be 89.0.0.5 and 89.0.0.40, >the second SCED card end up transmitting ALL outbound packets; netstat -i >looks like this: This is just the way TCP/IP works. The tcp output routine uses the routing table (netstat -r) to determine which interace to send a packet. It will send the packet out the first interface it finds with the correct network address. If both your interfaces are configured for the same network (89), then all packets will go out the first interface. (notice that this logic has nothing to to with TCP connections). Notice that netstat -i doesn't say anything about the number of TCP connections associated with the card. >Something else I've tried: using IP addresses on different network numbers >(ie. 89.0.0.5 and 88.0.0.40), but we can't reach the 2nd SCED card, even >when I manually put entries for the 2nd SCED card in all machines' ARP >tables. To distribute the load, you have to make it look like two different ethernet cables - i.e. give them different network numbers - like you tried above. The problem is that the workstations assume that all hosts on the same ethernet cable will have the same network number. So if you have a workstation with address 89.0.0.10, and it tries to talk to the Sequent as 88.0.0.40, it won't work. The workstation doesn't know how to send packets to network 88 - and on most systems, there's no way to assign two different network numbers to the same ethernet interface. What you can do is change the IP address of half of your workstaions so they too are on the 88 network. Then they will be able to talk to the Sequent. But then they will have problems talking to other workstations that have IP address with 89 network number. You can solve this by making the sequent act as a gateway between the two networks (which it will do automatically. On the workstations, just configure the sequent as the default gateway. If the workstation has an 89 address, then use the 89 address of the Sequent as the default gateway and address, and if the workstion has an 88 address, then use the Sequent's 88 address as the gateway. BTW, on Unix workstations you normally define the default gateway (i.e. route) with a command that looks something like this: "/usr/etc/route add 0 89.0.0.40 1". The problem with this set up is any time a workstation needs to talk to another workstation that has a different network number, all the traffic will have to go through the Sequent, and will appear on the cable twice. If you have very little traffic between the other workstaions, this might not be too bad. But basically, all this shouldn't be required. Curt
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