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3 total messages Started by Dave Wiltzius Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:10
RAID (disks) questions.
#90
Author: Dave Wiltzius
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:10
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Is anyone using RAID (disks) on an SGI (or any other machine,
actually)?

If so, I would be interested in posing a few questions such
as what application you are using, the performance gains you
are experiencing and the extent of your software modifications
to achieve this performance gain.

If you are accessing data on RAID via a network file service
(presumably NFS), what is your network media and how much of
a performance hit did you take going via NFS?

If any SGI folks and get me any info, I would be very interested.
We are seriously considering using RAID on an SGI 440.  My sales
person is in training for the next few days; still...

Thanks.  Please respond by email.

  Dave Wiltzius
  Lawrence Livermore Nat'l Lab
  wiltzius@llnl.gov
Re: RAID (disks) questions.
#91
Author: Dave Olson
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:20
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In <145785@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> wiltzius@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (Dave Wiltzius) writes:
| Is anyone using RAID (disks) on an SGI (or any other machine,
| actually)?
| 
| If so, I would be interested in posing a few questions such
| as what application you are using, the performance gains you
| are experiencing and the extent of your software modifications
| to achieve this performance gain.

You are very unlikely to see a performance gain over seperate
disks, unless you have a lot of file i/o that has to be to a single
partition, and get a very high performance RAID and a controller
to match.  In general RAIDs have lower performance and much higher
cost than independent disks, and the only reason for going with
a RAID is if you get one that supports hot sparing of drives and
automatic regeneration of parity, etc. afterwards.

| If you are accessing data on RAID via a network file service
| (presumably NFS), what is your network media and how much of
| a performance hit did you take going via NFS?

Even a single SCSI disk is far faster than NFS over ethernet.
FDDI is still faster than a single disk (for another year or so),
unless you have a high end IPI drive, which can be faster than even
FDDI.  Unless you are trying to set up a large fileserver for some
other reason than performance, you don't want to access RAID over
any current network (well, maybe Ultranet would do for another couple
of years).

| If any SGI folks and get me any info, I would be very interested.
| We are seriously considering using RAID on an SGI 440.  My sales
| person is in training for the next few days; still...

There are 3rd parties selling RAID for SGI, but we don't have an
officially approved SGI RAID yet, although I believe there is work
being done on RAID for the not too distant future.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Re: RAID (disks) questions.
#92
Author: Reinhard Doelz
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:06
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In article <up56s94@zuni.esd.sgi.com>, olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
|> In <145785@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> wiltzius@anduin.ocf.llnl.gov (Dave Wiltzius) writes:
|> 
|> | If any SGI folks and get me any info, I would be very interested.
|> | We are seriously considering using RAID on an SGI 440.  My sales
|> | person is in training for the next few days; still...
|> 
|> There are 3rd parties selling RAID for SGI, but we don't have an
|> officially approved SGI RAID yet, although I believe there is work
|> being done on RAID for the not too distant future.
|> --

Does anyone use SCSI I ("old" scsi used on the R3K indigo) or does
the  use of RAID imply scsi II (and a presumably expensive ) upgrade? 
Is it possible to mix scsi I and scsi II devices on the same bus ? 

Thanks
Reinhard 


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