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mapesdhs@yahoo.com wrote:
> FOR SALE:
> 
>    SGI 1600SW Flat Panel Display (excellent condition, no dead pixels)
> 
>    250 UKP + shipping (or collect)

Isn't this the one that has a non standard SGI digital connector?

I believe there are adaptors to convert it to DVI though... but you 
should make people aware, IMO.

Geoff

Geoff Winkless wrote:
> I believe there are adaptors to convert it to DVI though... but you 
> should make people aware, IMO.

I admit I hadn't seen your second post regarding the adaptor - however 
that's kind of the point, isn't it - others may not see it either :)

G

So you live in Edinburgh. But what else gives you the right to spam 
this group with your commercial service? Seems to me that the 
occasional sale of personal items here is fine, but you're clearly 
running a business. That puts you in the same category with any other 
business abusing Usenet with adverts. Please stop.

On 2005-06-16 13:49:01 +0100, mapesdhs@yahoo.com said:

> 
> FOR SALE:
> 
>    SGI 1600SW Flat Panel Display (excellent condition, no dead pixels)
> 
>    250 UKP + shipping (or collect)
> 
> 
> Shipping is 15 UKP to a UK destination by courier, and typically
> between 20 and 40 UKP for a mainland European destination, depending
> on location; see my shipping page for costs to various locations:
> 
>   http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/shipping.html
> 
> 
> Email or call if interested!
> 
>   Email: mapesdhs@yahoo.com
>   Home: +44 (0)131 477 1142
> 
> Please see my feedback file for details of my packaging methods,
> and comments from those who have bought things from me in the past:
> 
>   http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/feedback.html
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Ian.
> 
> SGI Depot: http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/sgidepot/
> Email: mapesdhs@yahoo.com       (eBay ID: mapesdhs)
> Backup email (send copy to this too): sgidepot@blueyonder.co.uk
> Home: +44 (0)131 476 0796 (best to call this number first)
> Mobile: 07743 495403  (usually off; leave a message and I'll call back)
> 
> SGI/Future Technology/N64: http://www.futuretech.blinkenlights.nl/
> Doom Help Service (DHS):   http://www.gamers.org/dhs/

Oh grow up, for gods sake!

You should take a look at the names of the newsgroups that this advert is 
posted to. comp.sys.sgi.MARKETPLACE, misc.FORSALE.computers.others, etc How 
can someone be abusing usenet with adverts, when they are posting to groups 
specifically set up so people can post adverts???? I hardly think such ads 
are spam.

And yes, Ian is running a business. The stuff he has for sale, and I hope he 
doesn't mind me saying this, is only of interest to maybe a couple of 
hundred people in the country. The Silicon Graphics computers that he sells 
aren't something you can pop down to PC world and buy parts for, you know. 
So how else is he to reach potential customers, other than to advertise 
here??? Jesus, get a life.

Rant over.

Hi Geoff,

have you ever bought anything from Ian? I have and I know what excellant 
service he offers. He is not the kind of person to just sell you something 
and be done with it. I bought an SGI Onyx CPU module off him a while ago and 
had a few problems installing it. Ian was very helpful and we got everything 
sorted out. My point is that he would most likely tell whoever enquires 
about the screen that it needs an adaptor to work with non-SGI equipment.

However, anyone that buys obscure secondhand computer parts off the internet 
and does no research about what they are buying deserves everything they 
get...

Caveat Emptor

M Holford wrote:
> 

What's the feminine for netKop?


Odie
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In article <17SdnUS_eNGwoCnfRVnytQ@brightview.com>,
M Holford <itsa.secret@im.not.telling.you> wrote:

>How
>can someone be abusing usenet with adverts, when they are posting to groups 
>specifically set up so people can post adverts????

Like ed.general you mean?

-- Richard

"Odie Ferrous" <odie_ferrous@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42B44D20.313389F8@hotmail.com...
> M Holford wrote:
> >
>
> What's the feminine for netKop?
>
>

NetKop


Tamzin

M Holford <itsa.secret@im.not.telling.you> wrote:

> Oh grow up, for gods sake!
> 
> You should take a look at the names of the newsgroups that this advert is
> posted to. comp.sys.sgi.MARKETPLACE, misc.FORSALE.computers.others, etc How
> can someone be abusing usenet with adverts, when they are posting to groups
> specifically set up so people can post adverts???? I

It makes no difference if it was cross-posed to a non-adverts group - it
is OT in those groups, and for uk.ads.comp, it should be marked 'comm:'
as it is a business doing the selling.
Alan.

Janet deJanet wrote:
> So you live in Edinburgh. But what else gives you the right to spam
> this group with your commercial service? ...

I'm not running a proper business (not yet), and it's hardly spam.
I help out a lot of students and other academic institutions, including
Edinburgh Uni.


> occasional sale of personal items here is fine, but you're clearly
> running a business. That puts you in the same category with any other
> business abusing Usenet with adverts. Please stop.

Abusing USENET? Would be more appropriate to complain to entities
such as Google who've fundamentally changed how USENET works. Try
having a look at comp.sys.sgi.* and tell me USENET is remotely working
the way it should be.

I post to ed.general because I can deliver locally and because
many edu people in the area have found my services useful.

Somehow, there just seem to be more important issues in the world atm
IMO.

Ian.

M Holford wrote:
> You should take a look at the names of the newsgroups that this advert is
> posted to. comp.sys.sgi.MARKETPLACE, misc.FORSALE.computers.others, etc How
> can someone be abusing usenet with adverts, when they are posting to groups
> specifically set up so people can post adverts???? I hardly think such ads
> are spam.

They were moaning about ed.general. I couldn't be bothered to point out
the concept of 'general' in my reply though. I'd crosspost to
ed.adverts
if there was such a thing, but there isn't, or at least wasn't when I
did a search.


> And yes, Ian is running a business. ...

Not officially yet, but trying. Tough going. I want to expand my tech
site with vast amounts of new info (used by edu, research, govt,
commercial, hoe & hobbyist users worldwide), but I need to make it pay.


> ... The stuff he has for sale, and I hope he
> doesn't mind me saying this, is only of interest to maybe a couple of
> hundred people in the country. ...

Well, bit more than that I hope :D  but yeah, it's a niche market.
Particularly popular with students and edu places though.


> So how else is he to reach potential customers, other than to advertise
> here??? Jesus, get a life.

Indeed. More specific to ed.general, how else was a research dept at
Edinburgh Uni to find out that there was someone locally who could help
fix their Indigo2 which urgently needed repair? Not exactly big money
involved (new disk, fresh install, redoing app install & licenses, RAM
upgrade), but it was a tricky job with urgent time restraints - the
system
was due to go away out of the UK within days. I spent hours at home
doing
a fresh install and sorting out moving the sw/lics over from the
original
failing drive, testing, setting up a backup system with an extra drive
to prevent future problems, and multiple visits to Edinburgh Uni to
make sure it all worked ok. I was a sysadmin in academia for almost
a decade, I know how important research systems can be, so I was
willing
to go that extra mile to help sort out a problem. I can't help out
quite
like this for people & companies further away, but the least I can do
is
support those using SGI systems locally.


> Rant over.

Ditto, and thanks for the support Mark. 8)

Ian.

PS. Ironic thing: the 1600SW doesn't even belong to me. I'm not
directly
getting anything for it. :D  Just helping out a friend.

Geoff Winkless wrote:
> Geoff Winkless wrote:
> > I believe there are adaptors to convert it to DVI though... but you
> > should make people aware, IMO.
>
> I admit I hadn't seen your second post regarding the adaptor - however
> that's kind of the point, isn't it - others may not see it either :)

Don't worry, when people enquire about this sort of thing, I always
ensure
they are aware of all the issues. Still a good point though - I'll
include
a minor note in the future, perhaps say an adapter may be required,
email
for details, something like that.

There was an MLA available originally too, but that went pretty quick.

Cheers! :)

Ian.

mapesdhs@yahoo.com wrote in news:1119238738.182683.51560
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> Somehow, there just seem to be more important issues in the world atm
> IMO.

Ah, the old "there are people starving in Africa/being blown up in 
Iraq/etc. so don't come whining to me because your bins haven't been 
collected" argument. Usually an early sign that the person making that 
claim has lost the argument.

On 19 Jun 2005 mapesdhs@yahoo.com wrote:

> Don't worry, when people enquire about this sort of thing, I always
> ensure they are aware of all the issues. Still a good point though -
> I'll include a minor note in the future, perhaps say an adapter may be
> required, email for details, something like that.

I'd just like to chip in here as well, as an ed.general regular, and
someone who has procured a couple of sgi bits from Ian on behalf of a
friend. SGI isn't my first language, and Ian has always been incredibly
helpful, and it's far to easy to spend an hour or two chatting about SGI
vs Sun vs other big boy's platforms.

-- 
Steven Hill

I rant, therefore I am.