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On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 10:28:55 +0000, Species 8472 wrote:

> terryc <newssixspam-spam@woa.com.au> writes:
> 
>>On Sat, 28 Jun 2008 10:34:08 +0000, Craig Dewick wrote:
> 
> 
>>>>  2. Some layman comparision between this system and x86 system would
>>>>be better (i used all my googling skills but in vain, but always leads
>>>>me into spec.org)
>>> 
>>> To be honest, there really isn't any concrete way to compare an arbitrary
>>> Sparc-based system with an arbitrary x86-based system. The CPU architectures
>>> are completely different, the system board circuitry is different, and in
>>> general the entire systems are nothing at all like PC's. Some are close
>>> (such as the design of the Ultra 5 and 10 systems), but still very
>>> different.
> 
>>My 2c is that if you are going to go out and spend $$$ to buy hardware,
>>then buy X86 system hardware rather than sun stuff. Especially if you have
>>some hardware skills and can buy  yumcha x86 stuff. The parts will always
>>be reuseable in other systems.
> 
>>I've just brought home a courier van full of old sun hardware and I can
>>bet you, that apart from scsi stuff (hard disk, cdrom), that bugger all
>>will be interchangeable. <damm, just realised there wasn't a keyboard or
>>mouse in the whole van of stuff. bugger, yep the sun keyboard and mouse
>>are special and there are different models.>
> 
> Since when has PC stuff been interchangable? Apart from PCI cards, and IDE
> disks, nothing is interchangable, so it's no different to Sun hardware, or
> HP hardware, or IBM hardware, etc. etc. 

Finally, some one who has a bit of a clue. Yes, Brand name stuff can
have interchangeability problems, which is why I said yumcha.

> At least Sun hardware lasts waaaaaay longer in terms of useful 
> service life than PC hardware, 

Well, useful? 
I have a collection og Sparcstation 2 & 5. what are they good for?

I must admit that the yumcha can be dody. MSI mobo only last about 3
years and the never ending "guess sho is making the dodgy ide hard disks
this year.

> withstanding a few notable exceptions, most Sun systems are built far
> more robustly than just about any normal PC or x86-based server.

Yep.


>>> Yes the Ultra-60 system board firmware supports booting from a CD-ROM
>>> drive.

BTW, I have one of these to play around with as well, so I have a foot in
both worlds.

Actually, the big PC world problem is buying old RAM chips. it doesn't
take much before you start to compare the cost of just buying another
new system. OTOH, I've never even considered chasing sun RAM sticks.


>>> Regards,
>>> 
>>> Craig.