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Article #2698Re: Can SS20 take SCSI3 disks ?
From: James Lockwood
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 00:00
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kallisti (adal@urquell.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) wrote: : I heard through James Lockwood's pineal gland that: : >This is actually less important than you might think with only the system : >drive installed. The drive that can sustain more than 10MB/s is still : >relatively uncommon, the benefits of faster SCSI busses are mainly realized : >when multiple drives are attached. : : Most drives after a certain vintage can do above 10mb/sec sustained; : any drive one buys nowadays which is SCSI and 7200rpm will easily do I do agree with this, but I suspect that most people who are relying on Ultra 1's are not ready to pour large amounts of money into brand new SCSI disks. The internal drives that most of these systems shipped with are capable of 10MB/sec only under ideal circumstances. I personally deem the slower network performance of the Ultra 1 to be a more important factor in deciding which machine to purchase. : 15. The other half of the issue is that a slow bus will destroy a : large part of the advantage of the diskcache, because you're reading : data into the cache faster than it can empty onto the CPU. This is nearly a complete nonissue due to the way that Solaris handles disk caches. The write cache will not be useful during normal operation as the system must ensure that all data is committed to physical storage before it reports an I/O request as completed. A read cache is not very useful as main system memory does a better job of it. Burst write performance is still limited by physical disk speed. The key benefit of drive caches at this point is the coalescing and reordering of I/O requests and read-ahead. This is not hampered unduly by a slower bus speed. It would be very interesting to see high performance drives start coming with a few megabytes of NVRAM for cache. The cost would be relatively low and the gain in write performance high. -James
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4671,e4c5da146b1ee584 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4671,public X-Google-Thread: 10d053,8e9ebe382a5ea769 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d053,public From: james@foonly.com (James Lockwood) Subject: Re: Can SS20 take SCSI3 disks ? Date: 2000/02/21 Message-ID: <uE7s4.10484$Ev4.249898@nnrp1-w.snfc21.pbi.net> X-Deja-AN: 587869247 References: <88m9pu$79v$1@cubacola.tninet.se> <88pmch$fsh$1@jedi.apana.org.au> <38B07DD7.D766B360@medphys.ucl.ac.uk> <Ww1s4.11508$yt2.250022@nnrp3-w.snfc21.pbi.net> <slrn8b1cps.sig.adal@urquell.disy.cse.unsw.EDU.AU> Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware,aus.computers.sun X-Complaints-To: abuse@pacbell.net X-Trace: nnrp1-w.snfc21.pbi.net 951125658 207.215.187.27 (Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:34:18 PST) Organization: The Electric Mayhem X-Foonly: 36 bits forever! NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 01:34:18 PST Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,aus.computers.sun