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Re: Here's how to use large IDE drives with Ultra 5/10

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From: da borg
Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:00
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thx for the detailed information
h.k

Bruce Adler <bruce.NxOxSxPxAxMx.adler@acm.org> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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>
> Philip Brown <phil+s3@bolthole.no-bots.com> wrote in message
> news:slrn852n5a.pk6.phil+s3@shell3.ba.best.com...
> > On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:14:27 +0100, hastenichtgesehen@gmx.de wrote:
> > >> If a drive was labeled under Solaris 2.6 you will need to zap
> > >> the drive label with dd.
> > >[HOW] to zap a drive label with dd?
> >
> > dd if=/dev/zero count=1 of=/dev/rdsk/whtaerverp0
> >
> > NOTE THE "p0" at the end!!!
> >
> > This will kill the FDISK label.
> > To destroy the solaris stuff.. Ummm...
> > something like
>
> You're confusing the SPARC and x86 platforms. The SPARC and x86
> platforms have different >8GB problems, different label locations,
> and different label sizes.
>
> The original question was regarding the Ultra 5/10. Ultra 5/10s are
> SPARC platforms. IDE (and SCSI) disk drives on S7 SPARC platforms
> do *not* have FDISK tables and do *not* support the "p0" special file.
> The dd command you suggest isn't applicable to the original question.
>
> Accessing more than 8GB of an IDE disk on a S7 x86 platform isn't
> officially supported but there are some tricks that make it somewhat
> possibly (search deja.com or the Solaris on x86 group on egroups.com
> for discussions about various >8GB hacks). Solaris 8 on x86 seems to
> officially support >8GB IDE drives.
>
> >
> > dd if=/dev/zero count=1 of=/dev/rdsk/xxxxxs9
> >
>
> That doesn't do anything useful on either SPARC or x86 platforms.
> SPARC platforms only support slices 0-7. On x86 platforms, the s9
> slice is by convention the "alternates slice". Perhaps you were
> thinking of the s8 slice which by convention is the "boot slice".
> But that would also be the wrong slice to zero out. On the x86
> platform the label starts in sector 1 of the Solaris FDISK
> partition (sector 0 is the pboot sector and is required by the
> BIOS). Furthermore the x86 label may be more than 1 sector long.
> The s8 (boot) slice is *not* required to start in sector 0 of
> the Solaris FDISK partition, that's just where it is normally
> placed by the Solaris Install program and the format utility.
> Since the s8 (boot) slice has a specific and unique tag in the
> VTOC, it can be placed anywhere within the Solaris FDISK partition.
>
> Using the dd command to fix an invalid or correupt label requires
> way too much low level knowledge about the layout of disk drives.
> Some of the information is here:
>
>
>
http://docs.sun.com/ab2/coll.47.8/SYSADV1/@Ab2PageView/32803;td=5?DwebQuery=
s8
> &Ab2Lang=C&Ab2Enc=iso-8859-1
>
> The "proper" way to fix an invalid or corrupt label is to use
> the format command. See:
>
>
>
http://docs.sun.com/ab2/coll.47.8/SYSADV1/@Ab2PageView/35249;td=5?DwebQuery=
s8
> &Ab2Lang=C&Ab2Enc=iso-8859-1
>
>
> If you insist on using dd then you should be aware that on both SPARC
> and x86 platforms there is no slice that is *required* to start in
> sector 0 of the SPARC disk or sector 0 of the x86 Solaris FDISK
> partition. But there is a (unenforced) convention that the s2 (backup)
> slice starts in sector 0 and maps the whole SPARC disk or maps
> the whole x86 Solaris FDISK partition.
>
> On a SPARC platform the following sometimes works:
>
>     dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rdsk/c?t?d?s2 count=2
>
> (I'm not certain how large the SPARC label is but count=2 should wipe
> out more than enough of it).
>
> On a x86 platform the following sometimes works:
>
>     dd oseek=1 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/rdsk/c?[t?]d?s2 count=3
>
> Neither of the above work if the s2 slice isn't a conventional
> "backup" slice.
>
>
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From: "da borg" <hastenichtgesehen@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Here's how to use large IDE drives with Ultra 5/10
Date: 1999/12/11
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