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Article #128Re: Fujitsu and America
From: Lori Grob
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:46
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:46
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In article <1992Jul29.181851.12025@news.eng.convex.com>, jgardner@convex.com (John B. Gardner) writes: %% This probably belongs in a .politics newsgroup, but since it involves super %% computing and started here, I'm puting it here... %% % %% %% %% Hold on a minute. As easy as it would be for me to do flag waving about %% American jobs and so forth (which I believe in), I believe there's a logical %% reason for the U.S. government to mandate U.S. manufactured supercomputers %% for many installations. %% %% Namely this; A very large number of supercomputers purchased by the govt. %% are for military or security operations (note, I don't *know* this, but I'd %% say it's a pretty safe bet). Relying on a foreign power for support, parts, %% maintenance, etc. of a component that would be critical in wartime would be %% extremely dangerous. %% %% Now i hardly expect we will ever go to war with Japan, but lines of %% comunication and shipping capabilities could be seriously hampered if we %% were at war with _anyone_. %% %% Imagine if the JEWC operations center, which was of critical importance %% during "Desert Storm" had as its main computer equipment developed, built, %% and maintained from Iraq. Get the picture? We (the U.S.), were in fact %% aided in our war effort by U.S. computer parts (printers) which had been %% shipped to Iraq and covertly modified for just such an occurence. %% %% Yes, I work for a U.S. manufacturer of supercomputers, so my opinion is no %% doubt biased, but the above arguement still has merit, IMHO. %% %% jgardner %% -- %% /\ /_ _ jgardner@convex.com %% \//_//_/ %% / / "Poor is the man whose pleasures depend %% / \/ on the permission of another" -Madonna I agree that there are alot of nation security arguments for essential things being manufactured within one's own country. There is alot of good point to these things, however it is these same arguments that every country applies to things like, farm products, energy etc. It is not only in high security installations that you cannot put a foreign built supercomputer, it is also not easy in a research lab if you have gov't funding. Once again I am not arguing with that. However the example about desert storm is specious since, it was a coalition operation, as you may remember and one place we did solicit troops from, although they didn't get them, was Japan. At the moment Iraq doesn't manufacture computers, Europe and Asia do. According to your relying on a foreign power arguement, either all coalitions will just have to agree in advance that only US manufactured goods will do for support, maintanence, etc or each country will use their own (probably incompatable) equipment and support, etc which is not very efficient. My opinion is also, no doubt biased as I work for a french software house. And although I think that the previous poster's example has merit in the case of say, the US and country X, desert storm and coalition operations are not such a great example. -- L.S. Grob Chorus syste`mes phone +33-1-30-64-82-17 6 avenue Gustave Eiffel fax +33-1-30-57-00-66 F78182 Saint Quentin-en-Yvelines email grob@chorus.fr FRANCE grob%chorus.fr.uunet.uu.net --------
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!corton!chorus!opera.chorus.fr!grob From: grob@opera.chorus.fr (Lori Grob) Newsgroups: comp.sys.super Subject: Re: Fujitsu and America Keywords: Supercomputer, parallel processing, foreign Message-ID: <149@chorus.chorus.fr> Date: 20 Aug 92 09:46:04 GMT References: <153j3gINN86a@early-bird.think.com> <1992Jul28.152513.27457@athena.mit.edu> <40173@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> <1992Jul29.181851.12025@news.eng.convex.com> Sender: grob@chorus.chorus.fr Reply-To: grob@chorus.fr Distribution: comp.sys.super Organization: Chorus systemes, 6 av. Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, France Lines: 74