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Article #377Re: CFCs, What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer?
From: Paul Pierce
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:41
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:41
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In article <1992Nov16.192810.1213@nas.nasa.gov>, eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes: |> >>>>>what are they getting in addition to computational power? |> |> >In <1992Nov16.171314.2178@craycos.com> sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi) writes: |> >>... several hundred gallons of Fluorinert(r) ;-). |> |> In article <schumach.721938542@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com |> (Richard A. Schumacher) writes: |> >Not necessarily. Some of us are ozone-friendly. :-> |> |> Now, I could go over to Pollock's office in atmospheric chemistry, or |> some one from NCAR could pipe in, BUT let there be no mistake, the |> amount of Fluorinert running in Crays is probably trivial to the amount used |> in baths and washes (I've seen the one in Richardson) used in making computers |> and other electronics (as I view another hazying Silicon Valley day): |> Intel, NSC, AMD, MIPS/SGI, etc. Fortunately, it turns out to be possible to manufacture chips and boards without using CFC's. Intel, for instance, has/will soon essentially eliminate them. There was info about this in a recent corporate report, but now I can't find it so I don't have the details. Hopefully all the other companies are working on it too. -- Paul Pierce prp@ssd.intel.com Intel I suppose I should have a disclaimer here.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.super Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!iWarp.intel.com|ssd.intel.com!prp From: prp@ssd.intel.com (Paul Pierce) Subject: Re: CFCs, What are people paying for when they by a supercomputer? Message-ID: <BxvwGF.A4D@SSD.intel.com> Sender: usenet@SSD.intel.com Nntp-Posting-Host: nautilus Organization: Intel References: <1992Nov16.023102.21232@nas.nasa.gov> <1992Nov16.171314.2178@craycos.com> <schumach.721938542@convex.convex.com> <1992Nov16.192810.1213@nas.nasa.gov> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:41:02 GMT Lines: 26