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5 total messages Started by john Fri, 27 Nov 1987 02:07
transputer evaluation board (with T800)
#1938
Author: john
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1987 02:07
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Hello - A company named Microway is advertising a transputer development/
	evaluation board in the Nov. 24 issue of PC magazine.  It includes
	a T800 and 2mb as well as Occam.  This sounds like one of the
	Inmos evaluation boards ( I wrote to Inmos for more details on
	their PC/AT boards some time ago but have not recieved a reply).

	Does anyone have any experience with this (or a similar) board or
	the company?  What is the development environment like? Is the
	C compiler available for a non-outrageous price?  The company
	wants $2000 for the board and Occam - does anyone know of a less
	expensive source?

	thanks in advance for any comments or information forthcoming,

	john

	.....!ubc-vision!fornax!bby-bc!john
Re: transputer evaluation board (with T800)
#1940
Author: Sid Stuart
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1987 13:55
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	Microway designs and makes their own boards. I ate lunch with
the designer of the quadputer board at an Inmos presentation. He was
finishing up on the board when we spoke in early November.
Prices are as follows:

Monputers:	T414 w/2 meg			$1,495
		T800 w/2 meg			$1,995

Quadputers:	4 T414's w/4 meg		$6,000
		4 T800's w/4 meg		$8,000

		Upgrade Quadputer to 16 meg	$5,600

Software: (Lattice Logic, I think)
		C				  $750
		Fortran				  $750
		Prolog				  $750
		Pascal				  $750
		TDS				$1,500
		Occam				Free with tranputer board.


Phone:	617-934-2414


Sid Stuart - 617-271-2839
Re: transputer evaluation board (with T800)
#1942
Author: Dorothy DeLuca
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1987 20:59
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The T-800  with 2 Meg DRAM(5 wait state - very slow) board is available
from Microway now, however the T800 chip has a bug which causes problems
when communicating over links.  I think the reason that most companies
do not have T800 products at this time is that they are waiting for the
next version of the chip (available early next year) which has
this bug cleared up. Microway's board does come with the Occam compiler
however this is a standalone occam compiler.  It will not allow you to
load a network of transputers, not that you would want to since this
version T800 will crash if you do.  It costs $1995.  To be able to load
a network you will need to get the TDS (transputer development system
with Occam), a very nasty thing.  This will run you another $1500.  The
C compiler from Microway costs $750, it is implemented the same way
that Inmos implements C.  That is you write the sequential portions of
your code in C and link these sequential modules together with Occam.

Inmos' C is also $750.  Inmos' transputer boards will, in the near
future, be made up of modules.  The base board will consist of 10 slots
for adding transputer modules, it will also contain a C004 cross point
switch for establishing link connections (NO MORE PHYSICAL LINK
CONNECTIONS TO BE MADE!!!!).  The C004 also allows for dynamic link
connections to be made.  There are also edge connectors for connecting
links from transputers on other boards to the C004.  The cost of the
base board will be $1225.  The modules will also be stackable depending
on how much power is available from the PC.  The available modules will
be:

		T800 with 32K SRAM, takes up 1 slot - $1130
		T800 with 1M ZERO WAIT STATE DRAM, 4 slots - $1875
		T800 with 2M ZERO OR ONE WAIT STATE DRAM*, 2 slots - $2375
		T414 with 32K SRAM, 1 slot - $672
                T414 with 1M ZERO WAIT STATE DRAM, 4 slots - $1505 

*I'm not sure here, I think it's 1 wait state.

If you call now a deal can be made for $5500, which will include the base
board, a T800 module with 1Meg zero wait state RAM, and the TDS latest version.
(Call Craig Davidson at (301) 995-6952.  He's the one that offered me the
deal.)  This kind of product will be worth the wait in my opinion.  
With the new board T414 modules and T800 modules will all be
interchangeable.  It will be easy for the system to grow as fast as you
want.  There will also be a B012 board which will have 16 slots and
will cost $1750.  These modules are also going to be used by boards
developed by companies such as Tadpole Technologies,  just think of the
possibilities!  In my opinion the only disadvantage is the software
environment, however Inmos claims that this is improving and that a
true product release of the TDS and Occam, along with a complete
symbolic debugger(for debugging the network not just a single program
on a single transputer!) will be coming out first quarter of next
year.  Actually, I will be getting some more information on these products
in the mail if there is any interest.

Computer Systems Architects has a T800 board, the links run with
differential drivers so distance is not a problem (unlike with Inmos'
and microway's).  The equivalent board is $2370(5 wait state RAM).  The
TDS (with occam) is $1500, however in late December they will have a C
compiler which has a network loader and runs under MS-DOS for $400 (NO
TDS! :-).  The C compiler is being written by Logical Systems.  The
novel features provided in the occam language are implemented in this
version of C by means of library calls.  This make the code very
portable.

Micropar distributes a transputer board with slots for up to 4 transputers.
No differential drivers on the links.  They have a C compiler which
provides extentions to the C language to implement the features provided by
Occam.  This makes their version of C not very portable but fairly easy to
use.  It runs under MS-DOS.  Their T-800 board will not be out until around
February and they won't give out any prices yet.  The C compiler is $495.
Their fully populated (4 transputers, 4MB RAM) T-414 version is $4490,
compared to Microway's quad-transputer (T414 w/4MB RAM) board which is
$6000, so it might be worth the wait for the T800 version.

Hope this helps.

Dorothy DeLuca
ddd@thumper.bellcore.com
ihnp4!bellcore!thumper!ddd
(201) 829-4527
Re: transputer evaluation board (with T800)
#1954
Author: Jim Galloway
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1987 13:49
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Hi
	The only info I have is the Inmos compiler is available
in a Beta release version at #750, this price includes upgrades. From
speaking to Inmos they are not too impressed by the compiler. It is
unreliable, and generates very inefficient code. The Pascal compiler
is reported as being far superior to the C one.

	 Cheers 
                 Jim Galloway
Call for Papers
#1956
Author: Lee G. Friedman
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1987 13:58
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                    Architecture Minitrack on Transputer Research

     This is to announce an architecture minitrack for the HICSS-22 conference
     in Hawaii on Transputer based research.  The minitrack will contain sever
     sessions (a session is three papers on a given topic) on architectures
     using Transputers, algorithms, application areas, Operating Systems, ASIC
     and other areas to be determined (or suggested!!!). I plan on having a
     forum for interested parties to discuss transputer architecture issues.

     I am looking for papers in these areas and session coordinators.  This is
     an early call for papers but will permit me to create a better minitrack
     for all of us.  Please post this and inform all interested parties to
     contact me. Thanks, ALOHA

     What follows is the conference overview..................



                 HAWAII INTERNATIONAL CONFERENCE ON SYSTEM SCIENCES

                 HICSS-22 SOFTWARE TRACK INTENT TO PARTICIPATE FORM

                        Twenty-Second Annual HICSS Conference
                               Jan. 3-6, 1989, Hawaii

      GENERAL INFORMATION
      HICSS provides  a forum  for the  interchange of  ideas, research
     results,  development activities,  and  applications among  academicians
     and  practitioners  in the  information, computing, and  system sciences.
     HICSS is  sponsored by the University of Hawaii  in cooperation with the
     ACM, the IEEE Computer Society, and the Pacific Research Institute for
     Information  Systems and  Management (PRIISM).   HICSS-22 will consist of
     tutorials, open  forums, task forces,  a distinguished lecturer  series,
     and  the presentation  of accepted manuscripts which emphasize  research
     and development activities in software technology, architecture, decision
     support and knowledge-based  systems, emerging technologies  and advanced
     applications.  The best  papers, selected by the program committee in eac
     of these areas, are given an award at the meeting.  There is a high degre
     of interaction and discussion among the conference  participants as the
     meeting is conducted in a workshop-like setting.

      INSTRUCTIONS FOR SUBMITTING PAPERS
      Manuscripts should be 22-26 typewritten, double-spaced pages in length.
     Please do not  send submissions that are significantly shorter  or longer
     than  this. Papers must  not have been previously  presented or published
     nor  currently submitted for journal publication.  Each manuscript will b
     put through a  rigorous  refereeing process.  Manuscripts should have a
     title page that includes the title of the paper, full name of its
     author(s), affiliation(s), complete physical and electronic address(es),
     telephone  number(s) and a  300-word abstract of the paper.

      DEADLINES FOR AUTHORS
      o   A 300-word abstract is due by March 1, 1988
      o   Feedback to author concerning abstract by March 31, 1988
      o   Six copies of the manuscript are due by June 6, 1988.
      o   Notification of accepted papers by September 1, 1988.
      o   Accepted manuscripts,  camera-ready, are due  by October 3, 1988.

      DEADLINES FOR MINI-TRACK, SESSION, AND TASK-FORCE COORDINATORS
      If you  would like to  coordinate a mini-track,  session, or task force,
     you  must submit for consideration a  3 page abstract in  which you
     describe  the topic you  are proposing, its timeliness  and importance, a
     its  treatment in recent conferences and workshops before December 15,
     1987.

      PLEASE COMPLETE THE FOLLOWING FORM AND RETURN IT TO:
      Lee G. Friedman
      HICSS-22 Conference  Architecture MiniTrack Coordinator
      NCR Corporate Research & Development
      8181 Byers Road
      Miamisburg, OH 45342
      (513) 866-7471 ext. 352
      CSnet: lee.friedman@dayton.ncr.com

       Name:     ______________________________________________________
       Address:  ______________________________________________________
       City:     ______________________________________________________
       Phone No. ______________________________________________________
       Electronic Mail Address:________________________________________

         I will submit a paper in:
              I will referee papers in:

        ___  ___  Algorithms, Their Analysis and Pragmatics
        ___  ___  Applying Transputers to AI Technology
        ___  ___  Communication & Protocol Issues
        ___  ___  Database Systems
        ___  ___  Designing & Prototyping Complex Systems
        ___  ___  Distributed Systems
        ___  ___  Languages and Programming Paradigms
        ___  ___  Models of Execution and System Behavior
        ___  ___  Operating Systems and Environments
        ___  ___  Other ______________________________
        ___  ___  Fault Tolerant Design & Implementation
        ___  ___  Software Design Tools/Techniques/Environments
        ___  ___  Supercomputers & Massively Parallel Systems
        ___  ___  Testing, Verification, & Validation of Software
        ___  ___  User Interfaces
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