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2 total messages Started by Moshe Braner Tue, 19 Sep 1989 13:52
Re: Relative performance of T800 and other machines - update.
#276
Author: Moshe Braner
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1989 13:52
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The T800 is starting to lag behind some in speed, but its cost
effectiveness is actually improving.  The cost of an 8-node
system should drop below $5000 in the next few months given
the dropping RAM prices and the recent drastic cut in T800
pricing.  The main cost factor would be your RAM requirements.
That $1000 price for the PC host is a bit unfair if you need
more I/O capacity, etc.  You may want a $3000 386-based host.
But that's still relatively cheap.

But what will happen when the m88000 and i860 drop in price,
as is bound to happen some day?

- Moshe Braner
Re: Relative performance of T800 and other machines - update.
#277
Author: Hubert Matthews
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1989 11:05
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In article <8909191352.AA03741@tpot.tn.cornell.edu> braner@TPOT.TN.CORNELL.EDU (Moshe Braner) writes:

>The main cost factor would be your RAM requirements.

That has always been the case, and will continue to be the case for
some time.  CPU power is relatively cheap; large memories are not.

>That $1000 price for the PC host is a bit unfair if you need more I/O
>capacity, etc.  You may want a $3000 386-based host.  But that's
>still relatively cheap.

And the I/O capability doesn't scale as the CPU power does.  Compare
the ratio of CPU power to I/O bandwidth for an XT and a wizzo 386 box
and you'll see what I mean.  Too may people seem to look purely at CPU
speed and not enough people seem to look at overall system
performance.  Why is the Logical Systems C compiler for the transputer
a cross-compiler?  Because passing the compiler and the source files
over to the transputer is slower than using the PC to do the
compilation locally.

>But what will happen when the m88000 and i860 drop in price, as is
>bound to happen some day?

Prices for these new boards will probably be dictated by RAM prices,
just like other boards.  If you are hanging one of these boards on a
PC, then you *need* a lot of memory to compensate for the host's poor
I/O speed.  (Try running a virtual memory system from a RISC board via
a PC disk!).  Look at the numbers for a typical RISC machine: $400 for
the CPU, $300 for the caches (quite a variable cost), and $3000 for 16
MB of RAM.  That's just raw chip costs, without counting board space
and power consumption.

Follow-ups have been redirected to comp.arch, as this discussion seems
to be more general than just transputers.

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