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Started by Marc Gabriel
Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:50
Z-150 PC HD type?
Author: Marc Gabriel
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:50
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:50
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Does anyone remember what kind of hard drive the old Z-150 PCs used? Was it
an MFM? RLL? Proprietary format? The manuals say it is called a
"Winchester" drive, but of course this means nothing in the real world.
Sorry that I have to revive ancient history. Any help would be appreciated.
-Thanks.
-Marc.
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Marc C. Gabriel '93 - U.C. Box 545 -
(215) 882-0138 Lehigh University
Re: Z-150 PC HD type?
Author: RFM
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:59
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:59
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Probably an MFM. ST506 controller, etc. Don't thing they had RLL up & running back in those days.... BobM
Re: Z-150 PC HD type?
Author: dalke andrew
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:20
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:20
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In the referenced article mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Marc Gabriel) writes about Z-150 PCs: >Does anyone remember what kind of hard drive the old Z-150 PCs used? Was it >an MFM? RLL? Proprietary format? The manuals say it is called a >"Winchester" drive, but of course this means nothing in the real world. > >Sorry that I have to revive ancient history. Any help would be appreciated. First off, ancient? I'm running on a H-151 PC at 4.77 MHz. Not only is it a Zenith computer but it was distributed by Heathkit so you could assemble it yourself (or I could) for $200 less. Okay, so a memory delay line died and I wore out the original A: drive - that's _all_ that's gone bad in terms of hardware. How many 486-50's will say that in ten years? Okay, now that that's over. I didn't actually get the HD with the 151. (I had to wait about three years for that - but I was happy since I had floppies instead of tapes!) When I did, it was a Seagate. Hopefully the following will be of help. Product information, Seagate drive, (c) 1987 ST412 Interface drives using MFM encoding at 5 MB / sec MB # heads cyl. ST125 21 4 615 ST138 32 6 615 ST225 21 4 615 ST251 42 6 820 ST251-1 42 6 820 ST4038 31 5 733 ST4051 42 5 977 ST4053 44 5 1024 ST4096 80 9 1024 ST412 Interface Drives using RLL (2.7) encoding at 7.5 MB /sec ST138R 32 4 615 ST157R 49 6 615 ST238R 31 4 615 ST251R 43 4 820 ST277R 65 6 820 ST4144R 122 9 1024 SCSI is listed also, but I doubt that that is what you have. Now for my problems. I recently traded some RS-232 cable for a CPU/memory board and a CGA/floppy card. The CPU worked once and raised my Norton SI form 1.0 to 1.6 so I assume that it is 4.77/6 MHz board (there is a switch on the back). (The crystals are 14.31.. MHz (=3*4.77) and 24 MHz(=4*6=3*8). After a bit, the computer started complaining about memory problems. The ROM debugger pointed out a bad chip at U208. I swapped it with U209 and the computer would not boot. It complained about a hardware parity error in 0000:0000. I "un-swapped" the chips and it still would not work. My old CPU does boot but when I run its ROM debugger it gives me the same error at 0000:0000. I ran a sweep through all of RAM (on my old CPU) using RAMVIEW and found a couple of possibly bad memory chips but they were up in 5395:0a78 and 8392:8568. My concern then is this: Could there be a memory conflict between the old and the new boards? In which case (and in any case) does someone out there know what the DIP switch and jumper settings are for this board? Also, could the jump in speed affect the older (and slower) RAM on my Memory board? The chips are numbered MT4264-15 for the US made ones, M3764-15RS from OKI Japan, and SN74LS368AN for the TI chips from Malaysia. There are a lot of them (16k chips, remember them?) The board is a CPU/MEMORY BOARD 85-3162-01 111485 and the BIOS is dated (c) 1984. My other acquisition is a CGA/floppy disk controller card. The CGA works well enough for me to see the error message that something is wrong at the F000:0000 block of RAM. Again, there are a lot of DIP switches so something might be mis-switched. The thing that gets me is that F000 is dedicated to ROM (according to my copy of Norton's Programmer's Guide) so the new card should not affect RAM check in that area at all. The guy I got it from says he didn't have any problem with booting up. The problem was that the disk controller would not work. The card is simply labeled ZENITH DATA SYSTEMS COLOR VIDEO/FLOPPY BOARD and the last date I see on it is 1986. If I can get it working, I can take out the other two boards (keeping them as backups, of course) and have a free slot! If anyone can offer any suggestions or meanings behind DIP and jumper settings, I would love to hear from you. Andrew Dalke dalke@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu .plan -- Andrew dalke@uiuc.edu
Re: Z-150 PC HD type?
Author: Richard L Cordes
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:59
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:59
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Zenith use several different disk controller in there Z151's. If you tell me
what controller is in I cn tell what drive go with it. Some of the controllers
used jumpers or switches to support several drives.
Rick Cordes
Iowa State Univ.
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