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4 total messages Started by arritt Sat, 17 Feb 1990 03:17
386SX / small power supplies
#804
Author: arritt
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 1990 03:17
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I'm in the market for a 386sx, and our state contract says "thou
shalt buy Zenith and no other".  The Zenith 386sx has a 120 watt
power supply, which seems unreasonably small.  The Zenith sales
rep said they use some special chips which reduce the power
requirements.  This whole business seems weird -- the power supply
is a pretty small-dollar item in the context of the price of the
system, and the power usage of pc's is an insignificant contributor
to the electric bill of any governmental institution (i.e. Zenith's
primary market).  Just what are they trying to accomplish by using
such a low-rating power supply?

Anyway, my questions to you fellow netters:  Does anyone have 
experience with these units (or other Zeniths with very small
power supplies)?  Is this a practical consideration?  What happens
if I add a tape backup, a transputer board, maybe a few more
megabytes of memory, or other electrical load?

Whatever advice, anecdotes, warnings, etc. you can offer would be
appreciated.
________________________________________________________________________
Ray Arritt                        | 
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy    |
Univ. of Kansas                   |
Lawrence, KS  66045               |
arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu         |
arritt@ukanvax.bitnet             |
                               
Z-159 EMS Upgrades R FUN!
#809
Author: Usenet News Account
Date: Wed, 21 Feb 1990 01:54
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	I have been attempting to add EMS memory to my Z-159.  Silly me,
	I thought you could just add memory and flip a few switches.
	Here is actually what you need to do:

	From kent@uflorida (thanks!) there are missing chips on the old
	Z-159 memory boards (always wondered what was supposed to go there)
	and you need to add then in addition to the DRAM and flip the dips.

	Parts: U432,433 - 74LS670
	       U435     - 74LS244
	       U451     - 74ALS74
	       U455     - PAL ZDS P/N 444-499

	All but the last chip are easily available from Frys (or your local
	DRAM and Nacho Chip shop).  I talked to a zenith salesperson about
	EMS, he only could tell me what was on the sheet in front of him:
	a $113 memory board with the chips installed.  So I called Zenith in
	San Jose and asked about buying the chip.  After being on hold for
	several minutes, the rep told me that I could get a full chip upgrade
	(with 256K!!!) for the low price of $199.  No I insisted, I ONLY want
	the PAL.  "Are we installing it?"  No, I'll do it myself.  The PAL
	alone was $10.50, but there is a $100 Core charge if you don't give
	Zenith back your old PAL, BUT I NEVER GOT ONE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
	"Hmm, guess we're back to square one."  Yeah, ok, thanks...

	My next gambit is to find a repair center and connive them into
	selling me the chip.  Otherwise, could someone post the PAL source
	so I can burn one in myself (:-) 

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	John M Vinopal	banshee@ucscf.UCSC.EDU	ucbvax!ucscc!ucscf!banshee
Re: 386SX / small power supplies
#815
Author: Jeff Easton
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1990 17:44
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In article <22275.25dc6dd8@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, arritt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> I'm in the market for a 386sx, and our state contract says "thou
> shalt buy Zenith and no other".  The Zenith 386sx has a 120 watt
> power supply, which seems unreasonably small.  The Zenith sales
> rep said they use some special chips which reduce the power

  Ack!  special chips?  I happen to have a Z386sx power supply here, the
ratings are as follows:

	+5v  14A
	+12v 4A
	-12V .5A

  Now lets look at the load of a typical computer.  First off, the main 
board, fully loaded with 8 megs of RAM, coprocessor, etc. proabably takes
around 4 amps of the 5V line with around 100 ma on the +-12v lines.  I'm
guessing on the high side here.  That leaves 10A @ 5V for the slots.  One
slot has a VGA card, less than an amp @ 5V.  That leaves you with slightly
more than 2 amps @ 5v per slot, plenty for most cards.  The drives take
small amounts of current @ 5v, maybe an amp for all three.  The drives
do require maybe 1.5 amps from the 12v line, more for startup.
  This just about fits the supply ratings above.

> Anyway, my questions to you fellow netters:  Does anyone have 
> experience with these units (or other Zeniths with very small
> power supplies)?  Is this a practical consideration?  What happens
> if I add a tape backup, a transputer board, maybe a few more
> megabytes of memory, or other electrical load?

  Well, I have a little experience with Zenith units ;^).  The 
transputer boards could draw quite a bit of current.  Most
other AT type boards will be okay.

> Ray Arritt                        | 



	Jeff Easton			Zenith Data Systems
	Systems Engineer		OEM Engineering
	easton@andrews.edu     --or--
	easton@zds-oem.zds.com
	 I'd rather be Water Skiing...
 
Re: Z-159 EMS Upgrades R FUN!
#816
Author: Jeff Easton
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 1990 17:49
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In article <1391@darkstar.ucsc.edu>, usenet@darkstar.ucsc.edu (Usenet News Account) writes:
> 
> 	I have been attempting to add EMS memory to my Z-159.  Silly me,
> 	I thought you could just add memory and flip a few switches.
> 	Here is actually what you need to do:
> 
> 
> 	My next gambit is to find a repair center and connive them into
> 	selling me the chip.  Otherwise, could someone post the PAL source
> 	so I can burn one in myself (:-) 
> 

  Call Heath parts replacement at 616-982-3571, give them the part
number.  They will be happy to sell you just the PAL.

> 	John M Vinopal	banshee@ucscf.UCSC.EDU	ucbvax!ucscc!ucscf!banshee


	Jeff Easton			Zenith Data Systems
	Systems Engineer		OEM Engineering
	easton@andrews.edu     --or--
	easton@zds-oem.zds.com
	 I'd rather be Water Skiing...
 
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