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In article <1992Nov5.115350.17166@ircam.fr> francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis) writes:

>
>I'll toss my hat in the ring. I had to design and typeset some books
>for travellers in Eastern Europe (Poland and Romania), and granted I
>had to use an XT with a 40mb disk and a hercules display, and a
>laserjet IIP/PacificPage postscript, I don't see how it could have
>been done with other packages as easily, if at all. It was essentially
>organizing a database of contacts in a meaningful way, and generating
>postscript output to make the films. I have become fairly adept at
>Ventura, which isn't at all a friendly program.

I agree.

>
>There are virtually no keyboard shortcuts (c'mon, I have to always go
>through menus to print a page or to quit? To pull up font

You may recall that I got into this pickle by merely suggesting
that someone might want to look at Ventura 4.1. In 4.1 you can
print by pressing a button on a button bar. I haven't made a 
survey of how many keyboard shortcuts there are, but I think 
there is an increasing trend to go the button bar (or speed bar or
whatever) route. I'm fond of keyboard shortcuts myself, but in
recent years I've had to give up on most because I just can't
remember them well enough to avoid sending my work into the 
ether from time to time. (For better or for worse I have to work
on 5 different O/S platforms and I find that even the same 
software sold on different platforms employs different keyboard
shortcuts from one platform to the next. Anybody remember moving
from control-c in WordStar to something else? <smile>)

>Can anyone summarize the difference between Ventura 2.0, 3.0, and 4.0(1)?

2.0 was a good program for its time. 3.0 was treading water and 
attempting to expand to Windows. Poorly in my opinion. 4.0 was
an attempt to clean up for Windows. Failed, in my opinion. 4.1 is
a nice try which will keep a few of us in the fold for the time 
being.

>laugh when I try to think about why Ventura doesn't scale EPS files
>correctly when I say 'fit to frame' and 'distorted' and I have to
>get something out yesterday.
>

I appreciate the good humor.

Jack F. Love