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Re: Possible New Ventura Product

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From: Phil Hughes
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:39
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Jack Love (jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan19.102541.2481@vixvax.mgi.com> eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) writes:
: >
: >Have any of you heard about this or have any related comments?
: 
: This accords with what I have heard. A while ago I did some posting
: here about the quality of version 4.1, and I was wondering how
: you feel about it.

It seems to work.  I hate the new "look" but fortunately figured out
how to get rid of the new buttons.  Personally I wish Ventura had fixed
the bugs in version 2.0 that ran with GEM rather than keep changing the
user interface, adding new features and new bugs.

I make these comments as a person who doesn't want to even run MS-DOS and
has no real use for Microsoft Windows.  I would prefer UNIX-based
products.  The only stuff I run under MS-DOS are Ventura, Corel, HP
Scanner software and, as needed, Elvis (a vi clone).  I would be happy to
move this stuff to a UNIX platform (PC-based or Sun) if the right tool
existed.

That said, I see Ventura as the right tool (and, based on my
understanding, FrameMaker isn't). What I really like about Ventura is the
fact that I can keep the pieces of a document in their original form
(ASCII text, MS-Word, etc).  This is less important for some projects
(SSC's catalog, for example, is all ASCII and a non-problem) but for a
newsletter that I work on input comes from various people and the ability
to let them continue to edit with their favorite editor is very
important.

: On the other hand, I am *very* concerned that the publicity
: on Ventura is so bad that few new users are likely to begin 
: with it. Ventura's overall market share, as reported in the trade
: press, has been dramatically shrinking. So I continue to be 
: alarmed that I face becoming part of the orphaned product 
: syndrome. In other words, should I re-energize to convert
: now, or be forced into it later?

I am currently involved with a group that is putting together a magazine.
This will probably be the thing that will force a new shopping trip.
About a year ago Ventura claimed that version 5 would run on Suns.
Unless there is something definite pointing this way in the next few
months I don't see Ventura as a reasonable answer anymore.
-- 
Phil Hughes, SSC, Inc. P.O. Box 55549, Seattle, WA 98155  (206)FOR-UNIX
>>> Publishers of pocket references for UNIX, C, VI, Emacs, Ksh, MS-DOS, ... <<<
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From: fyl@ssc.com (Phil Hughes)
Subject: Re: Possible New Ventura Product
Organization: SSC, Inc.,  Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:39:50 GMT
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