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Re: FrameBuilder

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From: Alex Lange
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:17
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jrutledg@cs.ulowell.edu (John Lawrence Rutledge) writes:
: In article <ROBIN.93Jan10111434@utafll.utafll.uta.edu> robin@utafll.uta.edu (Robin Cover) writes:
: >The description of FrameBuilder's "SGML support" by Peter Cash is a
: >major stunner, if it is accurate.  The Fall issue of <title>Frame
: >Focus</> had a lead article "Frame Joins Forces with Datalogics" which
: >said, among other things:
: >
: >     FrameBuilder provides full, native support for Standard
: >     Generalized Markup Language (SGML), a widely adopted ISO
: >     standard for document interchange.
: 
: I got the some line from a sales rep at UNIX EXPO back in September.  So I
: arranged to become a beta test site.  Unfortunatity I found out after 
: getting the product and the manuals, this "full, nativbe support" only 
: means it incorperates the concept of structure, but nothing more.  
: 
: FrameBuilder allows the user to define, in SGML like sematics, the structure
: of the document.  This structure definition contains all the basic operators
: including inclusions and exclusions.  

The demonstrations at the Seybold Expo in San Francisco last Fall
emphasized FrameBuilder's rules as "content models," but "better than SGML."

:                                       But even this violates the standard
: in minor ways.  

The concept of "required elements" is not enforced, merely "noted"
by red lines (as opposed to black) in FrameBuilder's presentation
of a document's structure. This was justified by the representative as
in keeping with the way documents are written.  For example, you wouldn't
want to force someone to compose the introduction to a paper before
the body was written, would you?

As for "native SGML support," I realized that was an untruth when I was
told that documents are stored in Frame's binary format.

Alex Lange                               |    Everyone spoke of 
UNIX Technical Publications              |    an information overload,
Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.  |    but what there was in fact was
Sunnyvale CA USA                         |    a non-information overload.
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