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Article #12194Re: ANNOUNCE: GNU TeX 0.80 (beta)
From: David Kastrup
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:00
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seebs@plethora.net (Peter Seebach) writes: > Based on common usage, I'm referring to "Linux" as the thing you get > on a CD from one of however many vendors. It includes an X > distribution, it includes all sorts of stuff. Distinct from "the > Linux kernel". > > The point being, that's a system you can use because Linus had a > vision of having a complete O/S that was free software. Actually, this is a very wrong account of the history. Linus had a vision of making a good Unix kernel, and that's what he is still working at. The GNU project was the vision of having a complete O/S that was free software. The GNU project started sometime in the eighties. Now when Linus had his kernel running, he figured he could make it much more useful by just using the stuff made for the GNU project. In connection with this, a few design decisions were made. a) he decided to make Linux as standard-compliant a Unix as possible. b) he decided to license the kernel under the GPL (this change occured at version 0.98 or so) in order to make it appear in line with a GNU system (he expressed it that he considered it his contribution to the free software he had been able to use from the GNU project, so I extrapolate that he aimed at his software being free in the same manner or at least spirit). The visions of Linus were rather of different focus. *His* main visions are about standards, technical feasibility and end user acceptance. He does not have a particular stand about software needing to be free or not-free. His contribution to the free software is simply on a tit-for-tat base: he found it useful for him, so he recontributed something to it. It's not a vision for him. In contrast, RMS is so full of vision he has some problems keeping up with real-world sights. -- David Kastrup Phone: +49-234-700-5570 Email: dak@neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Fax: +49-234-709-4209 Institut f�r Neuroinformatik, Universit�tsstr. 150, 44780 Bochum, Germany
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