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Re: IBM Pennant Systems survey

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From: Mike Jones
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:07
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In article <l9sn7jINNnrm@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout) writes:
> In article <199208281156.AA08401@claude.cs.umb.edu>, karl@claude.cs.umb.edu (Karl Berry) writes:
> |> Some of you may have seen the survey request from IBM,
> |> where they want us to send them documents.  I asked them
> |> what they would actually use the documents for.  After about
> |> a week, someone finally responded with what is below,
> |> telling me in effect that they won't tell me.
> 
> The response to you is merely a repeat of the original msg. Why don't
> they let someone answer who has knowledge of affairs, instead of just
> some bureaucrat.

This, I fear, is often a problem in IBM. On the other hand, they (we - I, of
course, am not an official IBM spokesman) are asking nicely, and didn't just
blow you off. Pennant Systems is what was once IBM's printer division. I
have nothing officially to do with them and I certainly don't know for sure,
but I'd guess that what they're looking for is real-world documents to use
for testing printers (the response you got sort of says that, once you
de-IBM-ify it). 
  
> |> I urge people not to cooperate with this survey.
> 
> Hear hear. Anything to hinder IBM.

That's your perogative. Karl, could you explain just a bit further what
problem you have with the survey? You obviously feel pretty strongly, to
urge others publicly to not cooperate.
As for Mr. Eijkhout, I don't understand that attitude at all. There are
some of us inside IBM who not only use UNIX, but we read Usenet and even
use TeX! We are occasionally crucified for ignoring the needs of the market,
then publicly abused for trying to investigate them. Sometimes you just
can't win.

   Mike Jones  |  AIX/ESA Development  |  mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com

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Subject: Re: IBM Pennant Systems survey
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