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Re: em-dashes, ellipsis and English Usage (long)

#497
From: Loyde W Hales
Date: Mon, 07 Aug 1989 05:53
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In article <1128@sas.UUCP> bts@sas.UUCP (Brian T. Schellenberger) writes:
>In article <30@nx32s.anduk.co.uk> lee%anduk.UUCP@neat.ai.toronto.edu (Liam R. Quin) writes:
>|| A quoted word or phrase less than a grammatically complete sentence
>|| should not be followed by any punctuation (except a question mark,
>|| exclamation mark or ellipsis) before the closing quotation mark, but the
>|| punctuation of the main sentence, if any, should be placed outside the
>|| quotation marks:
>||    These writers are sometimes known as `the Romantics'.
>
>It should be noted, however, that American usage is to place periods inside
>the quotes even if they represent the outside sentence.  This is illogical
>but, in my opinion, more pleasing to the eye.  (With most fonts--it looks
>horrid, actually, with vertical quote marks.)  Of course, my eye was raised
>mostly reading American typesetting . . .

Actually, it isn't an ``Americanism'' at all.  According to three different
sources I checked, punctuation belongs INSIDE the quotation marks under most
conditions.  Well, actually that isn't quite true.  One of the sources
[_Write Stuff_ by Jan Venolia] said that ellipsis, periods, and commas are
always to be placed inside, but EXCLAMATION MARKS and QUESTION MARKS go
OUTSIDE unless they are bound to the sentence.  (By ``bound'' I mean that the
mark is part of the quotation or would substantially hinder reading, as might
happen with a quote in the middle of the sentence.)

Hmmm......

LL

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