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Article #235Can Chaos Be Predictable?
From: W.A.Simon
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1991 13:36
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 1991 13:36
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In <1991Jun20.194552.15875@cunews.carleton.ca> rdb@scs.carleton.ca (Robert D. Black) writes:
> I recently read that the chaotic logistic equation
> u(t+1) = 4u(t)(1-u(t)) u(0) in 0..1,
> has an ANALYTIC SOLUTION:
> u(t) = sin**2 (2**(t-1) arccos(1-2u(0)))
> This is CONFUSING! Wasn't it the case that solvable systems
> are by definition predictable and hence not chaotic? Here you
> can find the value of the system at any time t without computing
> intermediate values. Yet the logistic equation above is said to be
> chaotic!
Would it be that your equation has just been proven to be
non chaotic, or would it be that chaos-order is a continuum,
and that Laplace was right? What we perceive as chaos is
just a weakness in our instrumentation... or computing power.
Half of a |8-)
My interest in chaotic sequences is due to the belief that
Poincare could be right, and therefore I could use such
a sequence to generate cryptanalytically strong keys.
Half of a |8-(
Which brings me back to the Ulam sequences we discussed the
other day (aka hailstone numbers). Are the odd/even transitions
in the sequences known to contain identifiable patterns? In
other words, would a string of 0's and 1's matching, respectively,
even numbers and odd numbers in the sequence, be considered to be
a random bit stream?
> Robert Black
--
William "Alain" Simon
UUCP: alain@elevia.UUCP
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!uunet!bonnie.concordia.ca!clyde.concordia.ca!altitude!elevia!alain From: alain@elevia.UUCP (W.A.Simon) Newsgroups: comp.theory.dynamic-sys,sci.crypt,sci.math.stat Subject: Can Chaos Be Predictable? Summary: Chaotic Logistic Map has Analytic Solution Keywords: chaos, predictability Message-ID: <1991Jun22.133638.3258@elevia.UUCP> Date: 22 Jun 91 13:36:38 GMT References: <1991Jun20.194552.15875@cunews.carleton.ca> Followup-To: comp.theory.dynamic-sys,sci.crypt,sci.math.stat Organization: The Electronic Path - Global Village Lines: 36