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Article #1672Re: Real Numbers vs. Rational Numbers?
From: Frank-Roland Boernke
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:35
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:35
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In article <7111@tivoli.UUCP>, taylor@foraker.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Eric Taylor) writes: |> In article <1992Dec16.095412.19570@tom.rz.uni-passau.de>, boerncke@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Frank-Roland Boernke) writes: |> |> In lectures we talked about the RAM, a formal machine-model that is proved |> |> to be as powerful as turing-machines(TM) and vice versa, according to the |> |> Church-Turing-Thesis. This seems to be ok until you say, that the RAM allows |> |> only natural numbers in its registers (or rational-numbers, since they are |> |> countable). Our professor told us, that RAMs are allowed to store REAL numbers |> |> too AND they are still as powerful as an ordinary turing machine. I claimed, this |> |> can`t be true, since there isn`t any possibility to work with irrational |> |> numbers in TMs. |> |> REAL numbers are always RATIONAL numbers and vice-versa. I dont't agree. |> |> Any rational number can be represented by the division |> of 2 integers ... This is the point: There are REAL number (the irrational ones) that cannot be represented by the division of 2 integers (e.g. PI or e). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Frank Boerncke ,,, University of Passau - Germany boerncke@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (.~.) phone: +49 0851 2267 --------------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo---------------------------
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Newsgroups: comp.theory Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!informatik.tu-muenchen.de!rz.uni-passau.de!kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de!boerncke From: boerncke@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Frank-Roland Boernke) Subject: Re: Real Numbers vs. Rational Numbers? Message-ID: <1992Dec21.103527.9623@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> Sender: news@tom.rz.uni-passau.de (News-Operator) Organization: University of Passau, Germany References: <1992Dec16.095412.19570@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> <7111@tivoli.UUCP> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:35:27 GMT Lines: 29