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Article #3959Re: Unix salt
From: Ken Pizzini
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 00:00
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On Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:14:08 GMT, Raphael <rraphael_pierre@hotmail.com> wrote: >I have a question for a assignment that is due tomorrow morning that I >can't figure out. I'd appreciate any help. I'll try to give a hint... >It was stated that the inclusion of the salt in the UNIX password scheme >increases the difficulty of guessing by a factor of 4096. But the salt >may be stored in plaintext in the same entry as the corresponding >ciphertext password. Therefore, those two characters may be known to the >attacker and need not be guessed. Why then is it asserted that the salt >increases security? > >I have a feeling this is easy but I can't figure it out. Can anyone >help? It depends on the nature of the attack being considered. For a single software-based attack on a single password the salt doesn't help, but consider either an attack by DES hardware (which is generally faster than software implementations, but only computes the ".." salt), or a dictionary attack where one pre-encrypts a "word" list... --Ken Pizzini
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