Article View: comp.unix.admin
Article #4224Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?
From: Christopher Browne
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:25
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:25
48 lines
4112 bytes
4112 bytes
In an attempt to throw the authorities off his trail, devnull@iprimus.c0m.au transmitted: > In article <861yable58.fsf@potato.vegetable.org.uk>, Tim Haynes wrote: >> ruhl@4dv.net (Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>) writes: >> >>> Sami Sihvonen <ss@janiika.com> writes: >>> >>>> Please tell me more about Linux-kernel based operating systems that >>>> use no GNU Project efforts. I have been asking it several times >>>> here and got no replies. >>> >>> The _point_ is that it's possible, and therefor that the GNU tools are >>> not required for a usable system. It might not be what either of us would >>> consider particularly useful, but it's possible. >> >> What crap. The `_point_', as you call it, is that what you actually have, >> in reality, on the CD in front of you, has GNU bits & pieces from a >> fundamental level up (glibc, fileutils, textutils,...), therefore it's fair >> enough to call it GNU/Linux. > > Why? The "GNU/Linux" hype is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Hardly. The _most_ ridiculous thing ever was when Microsoft was marketing the new "Microsoft Chrome" system, the supreme irony being that it was _perfectly_ characterized by the Jargon File definition... <http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/c/chrome.html> "chrome n. [from automotive slang via wargaming] Showy features added to attract users but contributing little or nothing to the power of a system. "The 3D icons in Motif are just chrome, but they certainly are pretty chrome!" Distinguished from bells and whistles by the fact that the latter are usually added to gratify developers' own desires for featurefulness. Often used as a term of contempt." > Do you call UNIX AT&T/MIT/Sun/HP/IBM/Novell/DEC/BSD/UNIX? Didn't > think so. > As has been stated before, the name isn't a bibliography. Indeed. -- (concatenate 'string "aa454" "@freenet.carleton.ca") http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/languages.html "And the next time you consider complaining that running Lucid Emacs 19.05 via NFS from a remote Linux machine in Paraguay doesn't seem to get the background colors right, you'll know who to thank." -- Matt Welsh
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<agum0l$ofpfg$1@ID-125932.news.dfncis.de>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!hse-mtl-ppp74617.qc.sympatico.CA!not-for-mailReferences:
<aermut$1vt9$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <n36dhucf8bochbnh1lfhtp78lkrrerjpug@4ax.com> <afddm8$94k$1@tilde.itg.ti.com> <l5unhu0a4ugvlfbri4r4qpl1v0g8op2s1o@4ax.com> <m3ofdvcs5e.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <r7q2iu48qndcr6qk40codmo6vc1dtaagv5@4ax.com> <m3r8imrvi7.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <0kddiu8m5t1kq59lc2ejrfkb9dlhedpr8n@4ax.com> <m37kk6uqk7.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <uauniuo0frli3me7d8arfsmr60t20kv46h@4ax.com> <m3ofdf62hx.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <861yable58.fsf@potato.vegetable.org.uk> <3d32d668$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: f8c9b,c2f5a7a6eb2eb0a9
X-Google-Attributes: gidf8c9b,public
X-Google-Thread: 1020c6,c2f5a7a6eb2eb0a9
X-Google-Attributes: gid1020c6,public
X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,7144e36039d56e89
X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public
X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-07-15 07:25:28 PST
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!hse-mtl-ppp74617.qc.sympatico.CA!not-for-mail
From: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?
Date: 15 Jul 2002 14:25:26 GMT
Organization: cbbrowne Computing Inc
Lines: 48
Message-ID: <agum0l$ofpfg$1@ID-125932.news.dfncis.de>
References: <aermut$1vt9$1@agate.berkeley.edu> <n36dhucf8bochbnh1lfhtp78lkrrerjpug@4ax.com> <afddm8$94k$1@tilde.itg.ti.com> <l5unhu0a4ugvlfbri4r4qpl1v0g8op2s1o@4ax.com> <m3ofdvcs5e.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <r7q2iu48qndcr6qk40codmo6vc1dtaagv5@4ax.com> <m3r8imrvi7.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <0kddiu8m5t1kq59lc2ejrfkb9dlhedpr8n@4ax.com> <m37kk6uqk7.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <uauniuo0frli3me7d8arfsmr60t20kv46h@4ax.com> <m3ofdf62hx.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> <861yable58.fsf@potato.vegetable.org.uk> <3d32d668$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au>
NNTP-Posting-Host: hse-mtl-ppp74617.qc.sympatico.ca (64.229.209.140)
X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1026743126 25683440 64.229.209.140 (16 [125932])
X-Draft-From: ("nntp+chvatal:gnu.misc.discuss" 2741)
X-Home-Page: http://www.cbbrowne.com/info/
X-Emacs-Acronym: Eight Megabytes And Constantly Swapping
Microsoft: I'm not laughing anymore.
X-Shopping-List:
(1) Anonymous commission opinions
(2) Catatonic tampon flossbags
(3) Buoyant polluters
(4) Poisonous apocalyptic yies
(5) Optimistic fugitives
X-Uboat-Death-Message: ANNOYED BY AIRCRAFT. UNABLE TO SURFACE. SINKING. U-500.