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Article #4290Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?
From: Robert Uhl ruhl
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:12
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 15:12
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Sami Sihvonen <ss@janiika.com> writes: > > Please tell me more about Linux-kernel based operating systems that > use no GNU Project efforts. I have been asking it several times > here and got no replies. The _point_ is that it's possible, and therefor that the GNU tools are not required for a usable system. It might not be what either of us would consider particularly useful, but it's possible. > And remember how this discussion started: People who use GNU/Linux > call it with a wrong name. If they call it GNU/Linux, they certainly do. They could call it BSD/GNU/AT&T/MIT/IBM/Linux, I suppose. You still haven't addressed the major point: why give credit in the name to a particular organisation, one which hasn;t even contributed the majority of code? It doesn't make sense. The appropriate place for credits is, believe it or not, in the credits. What's amusing is that the FSF disliked the BSD license because of the advertising clause, but now wants GNU mentioned in every breath which mentions Linux. Once again: I like the FSF; I like the GNU Project; I like the GPL. I'm not some proprietary-software zealot. I just happen to think that rms is mistaken here. > Sure, you can boot Linux-kernel without any GNU Project efforts. You > can fliush your toilet without any water too... No, actually, you can't. A toilet without water is nothing more than a bowl. A kernel without the GNU utilities is still an operating system. A fairly poor one, but it works. -- Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net> progress (n): the process through which Usenet has evolved from smart people in front of dumb terminals to dumb people in front of smart terminals --obs at burnout.demon.co.uk
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