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Article #4293Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?
From: Tim Haynes
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:51
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2002 16:51
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ruhl@4dv.net (Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>) writes: > Sami Sihvonen <ss@janiika.com> writes: > >> Please tell me more about Linux-kernel based operating systems that >> use no GNU Project efforts. I have been asking it several times >> here and got no replies. > > The _point_ is that it's possible, and therefor that the GNU tools are > not required for a usable system. It might not be what either of us would > consider particularly useful, but it's possible. What crap. The `_point_', as you call it, is that what you actually have, in reality, on the CD in front of you, has GNU bits & pieces from a fundamental level up (glibc, fileutils, textutils,...), therefore it's fair enough to call it GNU/Linux. > You still haven't addressed the > major point: why give credit in the name to a particular organisation, > one which hasn;t even contributed the majority of code? It doesn't make > sense. I suppose majority bums-on-seats is your only measure of importance of author of code. >> Sure, you can boot Linux-kernel without any GNU Project efforts. You can >> fliush your toilet without any water too... > > No, actually, you can't. A toilet without water is nothing more than a > bowl. A kernel without the GNU utilities is still an operating system. A > fairly poor one, but it works. And it allows you to do what? The point is that you can substitute orange-juice to flush your bog if you want, but there aren't that many, indeed any well-known, non-glibc-based nor GNU-using linux distros out there. ~Tim -- Seedy heroes and silver tills |piglet@stirfried.vegetable.org.uk Sinking suns on a sea of thrills |http://spodzone.org.uk/
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