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In the last exciting episode, rmgolbeck@uwaterloo.ca (Ryan M. Golbeck) wrote::
> Wayne Brown <fwbrown@bellsouth.net> writes:
>> I used to explain Linux to newbies by telling them the whole story
>> of how it started with Linus using Minix, and how he (and later
>> others) built the Linux kernel, and how they adopted the GNU tools,
>> utilities, and libraries to build a working system.  However, since
>> RMS started his stupid GNU/Linux campaign, I've stopped telling
>> people about RMS, the FSF, or GNU at all.  If new users are
>> interested, they can dig into the documentation and the source and
>> find out for themselves.  If they don't, then they're left with the
>> impression that Linus and his cohorts did the whole thing.  My
>> answer to RMS and his credit-grabbing is to avoid giving him credit
>> even where he deserves it.  As for the rest of the GNU Project:
>> I'll be glad to start telling people about them again, as soon as
>> they dump RMS and get a better spokesman.
>
> That is the most unfair attitude I've seen in this thread.  You are
> treating this as if Linux was the only participant in this project.
> You are acting as if it was the Linux people who came along and
> said, hey, lets port glibc to Linux for our system.  Instead of GNU
> saying "Hey, there's a free kernel.  Lets modify our stuff to work
> with it to make a GNU operating system."

But it _is_ the former that is exactly what happened.

Linus Torvalds wanted to hack on a 80386 OS kernel, and started by
hosting a more sophisticated variation on Minix atop Minix.

It turned out to be a goal to get it to self-host, so they used GCC as
a compiler, and modified GLIBC to get what became Linux's libc.
(Which corresponds to "Hey, let's port glibc to Linux for our
system!")  MUCH later on, there has been a convergence back towards
the GNU GLIBC, but that took place WAY later.

It _wasn't_ that "GNU said `hey!  free kernel!  Let's make a GNU OS!"
That _is_ something that happened, but it happened MUCH later, once
Linux was _already_ tremendously popular.
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