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Article #4342Re: Difference between Unix and Linux?
From: Robert Uhl ruhl
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 03:31
Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2002 03:31
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Steve Mading <madings@baladi.bmrb.wisc.edu> writes: > > :> Alright, then switching from programs to other files, would that > :> one userland process function very well without any of the > :> libraries in /lib, without the ability to interface with with > :> system routines because the library to interface with the kernel > :> is not there? > > : It could interface to the kernel directly... > > How? Remember, no compiler, no libraries, no linking because you > are talking about bare-bones here (and precompiling elsewhere > doesn't count because that just offloads some OS functionality to a > seperate machine.) So it would have to be by memorizing the offsets > of where routines start and calling them by address. It'd do it the same way glibc does it. There's nothing special about glibc; I could write ulibc, were I sufficiently motivated. Ditto for you or anyone else... > You also didn't answer the problem that "init=..." won't work > unless the executable you run is stored in a filesystem somewhere, > which means that the filesystem has to be part of the OS. Which is fairly appropriate, as allocating resources is the OS's job, and disk space is nothing if not a resource. -- Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net> There are all sorts of things they should do to the fellow responsible for the damage done by LOVELETTER, but they'll probably settle for just splitting his company in half. --Anthony DeBoer
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