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Article #350Re: Running DOS application from X-Station
From: phys169
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 00:08
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 00:08
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>Is there a way to use a DOS application from an X-Station? There are several options, most DON'T support graphics. 1. Use a PC as an X-station (e.g. a combination of MS-Windows and some X server software, or DV/X or OS/2, or a 386 Unix (Linux is good) with both X software and a DOS emulator). This gives maximum compatibility, and best DOS performance, but X performance might be a bit poor. It can be just as expensive as giving everyone both an X terminal and a DOS machine, though! 2. Run a software like Desqview/X on a goodly sized PC, so that conventional X terminals can run text-based DOS programs and MS-Windows 3.0 programs in standard mode. There are at least a couple of other products claiming (as far as I can tell) to do the same sort of thing... OS/2 sounds like it might be a possibility. I'm just about to try these sorts of options out. They tend to be a bit expensive (the basic product, like DV/X or OS/2 might not be, but you have to add lots of software extras on) but at least it is only one machine, used by several X terminals. 2b. You can use a program called TELNETD on a PC (286 will do), to allow one Unix user (dumb terminal, X terminal, whatever) at a time to run text-only DOS programs. Moderately economical, speed is similar to running a PC with SIMCGA. Contact erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca; as far as I know the software is free, but that might be only to universities. The version I used was experimental, and a bit too limited, but it has probably been improved a lot by now. You can run TelnetD under MSWindows (only one at a time per PC) and carry on using the PC, although I had a few problems with it crashing. 3. Run PC a emulator on the Unix box. Gobbles a lot of CPU time, even with modern idle-detection software. Best if the user is migrating from the PC and will phase-out PC software, and few people want to run it at the same time (or you have several CPU-servers to spare for the job). Expect something like an 80188 running at 2 MHz from a lightly-loaded Sparc 1. The freeware "pcm" package is pretty good (no graphics mode, but it is still only version 0.65), in some ways better than Soft-PC and other commercial products. Contact Gary Beihl (gary.beihl@columbiasc.ncr.com) for information. 4. You can connect a PC's serial port to a Unix (or whatever) box, do STTY AUX at the console, then run some (not all) Text-based software. You'd be surprised what doesn't work properly, not just software that writes straight to the screen but simple things like the backspace key at the MSDOS 3.3 prompt, etc. Some sofware for remote use/control of a PC might make this better, but all I've seen expects another PC, not a Unix system, on the other end. 5. There are a few other arrangements, e.g. a Sparc or Motorola 88k card in a PC - gives convenience, pretty good performance (I'm told they can make the PC even faster for graphics, and disk?) but cost is similar to option 1 above. 6. Have a look in the comp.unix.msdos news group for a thread about MSWindows programs running under Unix. Personally, I feel that emulating a windows application under Unix has a better chance of giving you speed close to the "real thing" than emulating simply the Intel chip, since you can then execute rather than interpret the MS-Windows calls. But that's a long-term hope, I guess. Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.
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