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jkl@hunan.rastek.com (James Keith Losset) writes:
>I'm trying, *really* trying to make the decision on which SVR4 to buy.
>With all of the rave reviews here (and I do take them seriously), I still
>am uncomfortable with DELL's future with this line.  I'm thinking of
>tossing the coin and risking Concensus.  However, I must have DOS-UNDER-
>UNIX.  Are there any options for doing this to overcome the fact that
>Concensus hasn't.  Has anyone integrated MERGE with 4.2 yet.  Does anyone
>have any insight into when or if Concensus will have it... or why they
>don't now?

For better of for worse, I'm using Dell SVR4 2.2, which as you're
aware, comes with Locus's Merge.

I need DOS to run things like matlab.  Since merge only provides a
virtual 8088 with only EMS (and matlab wants XMS, naturally), and
since I need not only a machine with lots of RAM, but some real speed
too, my solution is to get another 486.

With a networked, but diskless DOS-dedicated box, I have full DOS
compatibility, and can run (argh! MS Windows and matlab), with the 
benefits of staying virus-free, and having all my unix files at my
disposal on both machines.

Merge is a neat hack, and playing old CGA games under X is most
amusing, but if you need DOS to do serious work, I'm afraid
that merge just won't cut it.  I've run all sorts of things under
merge, including schematic design tools, and a circuit simulator.
Everything worked OK, but occasionally the virtual machine would lock
up for unknown reasons.  Also, merge slows down the entire system
somewhat, and isn't all that fast.

In any event, I imagine that Consensys comes with the dos* suite of
commands, so you can do UNIX-DOS transfers without having to bring up
the DOS machine.  Also, depending on what exactly you want to do under
DOS, you might be able to get away using (my solution and) a 386; a
motherboard for which can be found for quite cheap these days.

Bruno

Incidentally, what comes with Consensys?  Does one get X?
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In article <C19tL9.Jy0@hunan.rastek.com> jkl@hunan.rastek.com (James Keith Losset) writes:
>Concensus hasn't.  Has anyone integrated MERGE with 4.2 yet.  Does anyone
>have any insight into when or if Concensus will have it... or why they

UnixWare (4.2 from Univel) bundles Merge with both the Personal Edition and
the Application Server, but Windows 3.1 support is not supposed to be ready
until Q2.  I'm not sure if there's anything available from Locus for other
vendors' 4.2, which I believe is only Consensys so far.  I don't believe 
they bundle it.  I think their ads would mention it, if they did.  Also, the
version bundled with UnixWare supports only two sessions, at least in the
PE edition.  Multiple sessions are available with an add-on package.
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jkl@hunan.rastek.com (James Keith Losset) writes:

In comp.unix.sys5.r4 you write:

>I'm trying, *really* trying to make the decision on which SVR4 to buy.
>With all of the rave reviews here (and I do take them seriously), I still
>am uncomfortable with DELL's future with this line.  I'm thinking of
>tossing the coin and risking Concensus.  However, I must have DOS-UNDER-
>UNIX.  Are there any options for doing this to overcome the fact that
>Concensus hasn't.  Has anyone integrated MERGE with 4.2 yet.  Does anyone
>have any insight into when or if Concensus will have it... or why they
>don't now?

I'm happy as a clam with Dell.  I have everything I want -- except 4.2.

I would seriously look at Dell.  You get everything you would want,
along with Dos Merge.  ftp access to support services is available
with technical bulletins and updates available on dell1.dell.com.

Upgrade paths are provided with Dell -- with reasonable priced
upgrades (I believe the upgrade from SVR4 3.0 to 4.0 was something
like $100).  

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In article <C19tL9.Jy0@hunan.rastek.com> jkl@hunan.rastek.com (James Keith Losset) writes:
>I'm trying, *really* trying to make the decision on which SVR4 to buy.
>With all of the rave reviews here (and I do take them seriously), I still
>am uncomfortable with DELL's future with this line.  I'm thinking of
>tossing the coin and risking Concensus.  However, I must have DOS-UNDER-
>UNIX.  Are there any options for doing this to overcome the fact that
>Concensus hasn't.  Has anyone integrated MERGE with 4.2 yet.  Does anyone
>have any insight into when or if Concensus will have it... or why they
>don't now?
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Merge is available for SVR4.2 OEM's to resell.  It works with all versions
of SVR4.2 for Intel based machines.  Concensus chose to not make it
available for their system.

Univel bundles Merge with their 4.2 system (named Unixware).  A version of
Merge that supports MS-Windows 3.1 (with high resolution graphics in an
X window) is in the works.  Contact Univel about availability dates.

-David Peet