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In article <C1ABHp.8AD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater) writes:
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|>I just upgraded to Ultrix 4.2C, that is I loaded the Motif 1.1.3 subsets. Does
|>this mean that there are now older DECwindows subsets I can delete as they are
|>no longer being used, and if so which ones?
|>

My feeling is that Motif subsets are installed on top of DECwindows subsets.
So deleting DECwindows subsets after installation of Motif subsets would
destroy Motif subsets.  Check with setld -i SUBSETNAME to see which files
each subset really touch.

You should have deinstalled DECwindows subsets before you installed Motif
(no I didn't do that either, but now I have already installed ULTRIX 4.3)

Does anyone have exact information on this matter?


Jarmo

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In article <1993Jan26.150133.26405@cs.joensuu.fi> vaisanen@joyds2.joensuu.fi (Jarmo Vaisanen) writes:
>In article <C1ABHp.8AD@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater) writes:
>|>I just upgraded to Ultrix 4.2C, that is I loaded the Motif 1.1.3 subsets. Does
>|>this mean that there are now older DECwindows subsets I can delete as they are
>|>no longer being used, and if so which ones?

>My feeling is that Motif subsets are installed on top of DECwindows subsets.
>So deleting DECwindows subsets after installation of Motif subsets would
>destroy Motif subsets.  Check with setld -i SUBSETNAME to see which files
>each subset really touch.

>You should have deinstalled DECwindows subsets before you installed Motif
>(no I didn't do that either, but now I have already installed ULTRIX 4.3)

>Does anyone have exact information on this matter?

I don't have exact information but this is my experience.  I too installed
Motif 1.1.3 subsets onto a 4.2a system.  I didn't realize that the install
would be so traumatic; previously, Motif was placed in a separate directory
and a user could use mwm if they choose.

Anyway, immediately after I installed Motif 1.1.3, the machine froze with
one of the Session manager menus pulled down.  I thought this was not a
good thing (tm), so I went and de-installed Motif.  Surprise, surprise!
As far as I can tell, there was no X server left to start up.  So I also
think that the Motif subsets are installed on top of the DECwindows subsets.

Motif still sometimes gets stuck, usually with a pulldown Session Manager
menu.  I've tried the various suggestions on the net and the frequency of
this happening seems to be diminishing.


Yan.
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[In response to several postings about how installing the Motif 1.1.3
subset seems to adversely affect the DECwindows subsets....]

People always act so suprised and then run off to their computer and
immediately post to Usenet when something like this happens, when they
_should_ run to the Installation Guide or Release Notes, which
explains exactly this problem.

Yes, the Motif subsets are installed on top of the DECwindows subsets,
since they contain "Motif-ized" replacements for the DECwindows
programs.  This is explained on page 1-3 of the Release Notes (in
section 1.1.5, "Subsets and Reinstallation").

Actually reading these notes is left as an exercise for the reader.

-Rob
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In article <106628@netnews.upenn.edu> lau@desci.wharton.upenn.edu (Yan
K. Lau) writes:

:Motif still sometimes gets stuck, usually with a pulldown Session Manager
:menu.  I've tried the various suggestions on the net and the frequency of
:this happening seems to be diminishing.

There's an X server patch you can obtain from DEC that takes care of
this problem.  Talk to your DEC representative.

						...Mike

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