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Started by Martin Pauley
Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:11
System from scratch
Author: Martin Pauley
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:11
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:11
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Is there anyone out there who has built a Unix box and could tell me about their experience. I have been thinking of building because I believe it is cheaper and more flexable than buying. I'm planning to use the GNU Hurd, when it eventually emerges, GNU applications/utilities and X with gwm. It seems that the easiest way would be using components intended for powerful DOS machines, since they are widely available. I'm curious if anyone, as an amateur, has constructed a box with a design different from the PC standard. My dream would be to use some Inmos Transputers but I think this would conflict with my goal of minimal cost! Any coments? (Email preferred - I'll summarise and post.) -------------------------------- .Marty.! Lost in Space! (or is it Japan?) <pauley@tai.jkj.sii.co.jp>
Re: System from scratch
Author: Eric S. Raymond
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:01
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:01
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In <35144@adm.brl.mil> Martin Pauley wrote: > Is there anyone out there who has built a Unix box and could tell me > about their experience. > > It seems that the easiest way would be using components intended for > powerful DOS machines, since they are widely available. I'm curious if > anyone, as an amateur, has constructed a box with a design different > from the PC standard. With current technology, the only reasonable way to homebrew a UNIX box is by leveraging the ISA/EISA 80[34]86 standard. I wish it were otherwise, but the 68000 family lost its war nearly a decade ago now and no RISC chip yet commands anything like the breadth of support the Intel family does. Go pull my latest clone-hardware guide for UNIX buyers out of the news.answers archive; keyword "pc-unix". It will tell you most of what you need to know; also, why the UNIX-workstation market as we have known it is living on borrowed time... -- Eric S. Raymond <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>
Re: System from scratch
Author: Vincent D. Skahan
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:50
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:50
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esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes: >In <35144@adm.brl.mil> Martin Pauley wrote: >> Is there anyone out there who has built a Unix box and could tell me >> about their experience. >> >> It seems that the easiest way would be using components intended for >> powerful DOS machines, since they are widely available. I'm curious if >> anyone, as an amateur, has constructed a box with a design different >> from the PC standard. >With current technology, the only reasonable way to homebrew a UNIX box is by >leveraging the ISA/EISA 80[34]86 standard. I wish it were otherwise, but the >68000 family lost its war nearly a decade ago now and no RISC chip yet commands >anything like the breadth of support the Intel family does. What you build depends on what you want to do, but I have a generic econo-buy PC with a cheapie SVGA card and a couple of IDE drives (in other words, a normal 386-33 clone) and I run color X11R5, usenet news, elm, etc. at home for free using the "Linux" *nix... see comp.os.linux for free. -- --------- Vince Skahan ----- vds7789@aw101.iasl.ca.boeing.com ------- I make it a point to always have something from each of the five basic food groups....salt, sugar, fat, grease, and alcohol.
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