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Article #3134Re: SCAN 95b doesn't find MtE in EXE files (PC)
From: Kevin Marcus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:50
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:50
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frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes: >Stefano_Turci@f0.n462.z9.virnet.bad.se (Stefano Turci) writes: > >>Well, I converted the files from COM to EXE, and made some scanning >>tests with the mentioned programs. > >>The results were a bit strange, in fact: > >> F-prot 2.05 >> Scan 97 >> VirX 2.4 > >>missed *ALL* the converted files, while > >Not surprising - what you did was simply to add a new layer of >encryption to the files. Of course, the virus could be distributed in >this form, and would probably replicate, but all the second (and >later) generation copies would be detected normally. > >I am not at all surprised that my scanner, as well as the others >missed the virus - actually, no matter how you had encrypted it, it >probably would be missed. > >>converted files are still able to propagate the virus, so I think the >>authors of the "missing-in- action" programs should improve their a-v >>packages. 8-) > >In my case the reson I miss this particular sample is simple. I scan >inside LZEXE-compressed files, but only for signatures - that is, I >uncompress the virus in memory, and run my scanning engine over it. >If I uncompressed to disk, and stripped off the COM/EXE conversion, I >would detect it, but it would slow the scanner down considerably. > >I don't consider it a serious problem - basically it is equivalent to >distributing an old virus, with a new encryption wrapper...the >original sample will not be found, but all the second generation >copies will. Frisk, that is a very serious problem. It's quite analogous to the reason why 100% detection of MtE based .COM infectors is necessary. It can continuously reinstate infection of a computer (or network), and if the virus does damage slowly, it can be disastrous.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ornl!utkcs2!darwin.sura.net!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cert!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.cc.lehigh.edu!news From: tck@bend.ucsd.edu (Kevin Marcus) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: SCAN 95b doesn't find MtE in EXE files (PC) Message-ID: <0014.9211121928.AA09892@barnabas.cert.org> Date: 11 Nov 92 00:50:53 GMT Sender: virus-l@lehigh.edu Lines: 42 Approved: news@netnews.cc.lehigh.edu