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Re: Kuo's infection theory (PC)

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From: Vesselin Bontchev
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:02
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tyetiser@umbc3.umbc.edu (Mr. Tarkan Yetiser) writes:

>    Dr. Cohen's coverage of the material is fairly broad yet concise.
> Curious individuals are recommended to take a look at it. You might
> learn something.  Here is one: "... for small files, deriving CRC
> coefficients is trivial; and for "empty" files, CRC codes may show the
> CRC coefficients directly."

This is one point where I (and Yisrael Radai, I believe, will support
me) disagree with Dr. Cohen. Deriving the CRC coefficients it
"trivial" only if you have enough file-checksum pairs. If you are
really smart and don't care about the file size, "enough" can be
reduced to "one". However, most self-respecting checksummers also
record the file size, so this is just a theoretical speculation.

Otherwise, i.e., if the checksum database is kept off-line and out of
the reach of the virus, there is no way to derive the CRC
coefficients, without knowing the polynomial used for the CRC. And, if
the virus -does- have access to the signature database, then all bets
are off, since it could go stealth instead, modify the database, and
lots of other nasty tricks.

Regards,
Vesselin
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