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Article #4227Re: Kuo's infection theory (PC)
From: Vesselin Bontchev
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:02
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:02
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tyetiser@umbc3.umbc.edu (Mr. Tarkan Yetiser) writes: > Dr. Cohen's coverage of the material is fairly broad yet concise. > Curious individuals are recommended to take a look at it. You might > learn something. Here is one: "... for small files, deriving CRC > coefficients is trivial; and for "empty" files, CRC codes may show the > CRC coefficients directly." This is one point where I (and Yisrael Radai, I believe, will support me) disagree with Dr. Cohen. Deriving the CRC coefficients it "trivial" only if you have enough file-checksum pairs. If you are really smart and don't care about the file size, "enough" can be reduced to "one". However, most self-respecting checksummers also record the file size, so this is just a theoretical speculation. Otherwise, i.e., if the checksum database is kept off-line and out of the reach of the virus, there is no way to derive the CRC coefficients, without knowing the polynomial used for the CRC. And, if the virus -does- have access to the signature database, then all bets are off, since it could go stealth instead, modify the database, and lots of other nasty tricks. Regards, Vesselin - -- Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN < PGP 2.0 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!ukma!cs.widener.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.cc.lehigh.edu!news From: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: Kuo's infection theory (PC) Message-ID: <0007.9211171913.AA17490@barnabas.cert.org> Date: 16 Nov 92 15:02:19 GMT Sender: virus-l@lehigh.edu Lines: 29 Approved: news@netnews.cc.lehigh.edu