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Article #4750Re: Viral Based Distribution System
From: The Jester
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:10
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:10
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bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de (Vesselin Bontchev) writes: >ygoland@edison.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (The Jester) writes: > >> If this is an >> effective means of distribution then why use a virus at all? > >The question is incorrect. According to Dr. Cohen's definition, "this" >- -is- a virus. And, since you are using it to do something you would >like to be done, it is obviously a benevolent virus. Do you see the >misunderstanding now? It's all matter of definitions... Yes.. I understand. And may I say I STRONGLY disagree with Dr. Cohen's definition. A program in the login script that checks if you have been updated and then updates you is NOT a virus. The program in the loader does NOT reproduce itself it reproduces another program which is itself NOT a virus. (Lets ignore the obvious case where the loader installs an infected program =) For me the acid test of a virus is:Can it reproduce itself? Is the login script programing trying to run around and find other login scripts or executable files to infect? No. It doesn't infect anyone! 'Damnit Jim, its not alive!' >> In conclusion, a system that changes in an unpredictable manner, >> that uses hard to track mechanisms of change, is a security >> nightmare. > >Yup... Ever tried MS Windows?... :-) After reading this line I laughed so hard I almost fell out of my chair. AS a matter of fact I have. Thats why I now run on OS/2. What do you say about a program whose most recent release has as it's main selling point "we fixed all the bugs in our previous release". Of course microsoft doesn't have 'bugs', they have 'features'. =) But I digress. >> The Jester-PGP Ver2 upon Request >Please consider this a request... :-) Actually I bet you already have it, I have yours. You can finger me but I'll send it to you anyway just to be annoying. =) Yaron (The Jester) Goland p.s. see mister moderator, I remembered!!! =) - -- The Jester "Whats a Knock Out like you doing in a computer generated Gin joint like this one?"-William Riker "I'm god, whats your excuse?"-The Jester
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!cs.utexas.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!yale.edu!jvnc.net!netnews.upenn.edu!netnews.cc.lehigh.edu!news From: ygoland@edison.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (The Jester) Newsgroups: comp.virus Subject: Re: Viral Based Distribution System Message-ID: <0017.9301051858.AA13030@barnabas.cert.org> Date: 24 Dec 92 22:10:21 GMT Sender: virus-l@lehigh.edu Lines: 47 Approved: news@netnews.cc.lehigh.edu