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Article #4803Re: Good and bad viruses (was FC on virus creation)
From: Y. Radai
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:57
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 15:57
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Suzana writes:
> With properly defined computer virus there shoudln't be doubts what is
> a good and what is a bad virus. Or should be ? Let's suppose that bad
> virus is intended to cause some unwanted function in system. Some
> programs (even antiviral) can do the same thing, (what is unwanted
> function anyway ?) but they cannot propagate. Good virus can
> propagate, but it is supposed to not invoke anything unwanted. But, by
> definition good virus can mutate, so can become bad virus.
But it doesn't *have to* become a bad virus. And if it does become
one, then by most people's definitions it probably wasn't really a
good virus to begin with.
> Also, good
> virus on one system can be bad virus on another system (causing some
> unwanted function).
Correct in principle, but not too likely to occur in practice.
> Could all bad viruses be good viruses ? Yes,
> because without them many A-V producers would loose their source of
> money.
I think a lot of readers will find that a rather amusing example of
"goodness" of a virus. Are you serious?
> Can all good viruses be bad viruses ? Yes, because they are
> viruses (something very suspicious).
Only because there are (at least) two different meanings of the word
"virus". If you play on that, you can prove almost anything.
> Confusing ? Not to anyone who
> ever met chinese philosophy and principles of Yin and Yang. Shortly,
> good and bad are inseparable and dependent one of the another (you
> can't define good without defining bad and vice versa).
Even if you can't define "good" without defining "bad", that doesn't
imply that one *becomes* the other, or that there is no distinction
between them. In my opinion, this is a very confused philosophy.
> So, what to do ? Let's throw (unnecessary) philosophy ....
Excellent idea ....
Y. Radai
Hebrew Univ. of Jerusalem, Israel
RADAI@HUJIVMS.BITNET
RADAI@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
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