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Started by Vesselin Bontchev
Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:40
Re: Viral Based Distribution System
Author: Vesselin Bontchev
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:40
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:40
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ygoland@edison.SEAS.UCLA.EDU (The Jester) writes: > Yes.. I understand. And may I say I STRONGLY disagree with Dr. > Cohen's definition. Any human-language definition will be inexact. For an exact definition you should check his mathematical definition that involves Turing machines... I think it is explained in his paper "Computational Aspects of Computer Viruses", published in "Computers & Security". It is also explained in his Ph.D. thesis (although the paper is better) and is mentioned (without any explanation, which is rather confusing) in his booklet "A Short Course on Computer Viruses". > A program in the login script that checks if you > have been updated and then updates you is NOT a virus. The program in > the loader does NOT reproduce itself it reproduces another program > which is itself NOT a virus. No, you still do not understand. The "virus" is not just the login script - it is the whole package. The login script is just the active segment that seeks for "infectable" machines and transfers the rest of the "virus code". It is actually a worm, but Cohen's definition does not seem to make a difference between a virus and a worm. > loader installs an infected program =) For me the acid test of a virus > is:Can it reproduce itself? Correct. So, the copy of the anti-virus package on the server reproduces itself on each workstation when this workstation tries to log in. Automatic update. Reproduction. Virus-like behavior. > Is the login script programming trying to > run around and find other login scripts or executable files to infect? Another misunderstanding comes from the fact that most people distinguish between a "virus" (i.e., something that modifies executable files) and a "worm" (i.e., something that copies itself as a whole). While it is useful to make such a distinguishment for practical reasons, there is no real theoretical difference (e.g., what "files" do the boot sector viruses infect? How about the companion viruses? They do not modify anything...). > No. It doesn't infect anyone! 'Damnit Jim, its not alive!' Yup, it does. It "infects" the workstation with a copy of the "virus/worm" - the anti-virus package. Regards, Vesselin - -- Vesselin Vladimirov Bontchev Virus Test Center, University of Hamburg Tel.:+49-40-54715-224, Fax: +49-40-54715-226 Fachbereich Informatik - AGN < PGP 2.1 public key available on request. > Vogt-Koelln-Strasse 30, rm. 107 C e-mail: bontchev@fbihh.informatik.uni-hamburg.de D-2000 Hamburg 54, Germany
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