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Started by A. Padgett Peterson
Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:58
Re: Invalid Boot Sectors (PC)
Author: A. Padgett Peterson
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:58
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 22:58
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>From: "Roger Riordan" <riordan@tmxmelb.mhs.oz.au> >I recently wrote >>In a recent comment on a query by MOPURC01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU >>(Michael Purcell) about a virus which allegedly made disks >>unreadable I wrote. >>> If you put the wrong byte in the wrong place you can get the >>> symptoms described. ... >It appears the original message got lost, but the gist was that, >IN THEORY, it is possible to write a BS virus which is invisible >on an infected PC, but impossible to detect on an uninfected PC >with any existing scanner because DOS will crash if any attempt is >made to access an infected disk. This is something that experimentation has been done on. What I have found is that: a) If the Partition table is missing certain DOS signature bytes, DOS will refuse to recognise the disk (but a floppy boot will still work). b) If certain bytes in an otherwise good P-Table have certain wrong values a floppy boot may hang (which bytes and what values are DOS version dependant). c) Even given (a) or (b), BIOS software can restore bootability (I have a version of FIXMBR that loads and runs from the BIOS just like the early Microsoft Flight Simulator). d) *Every* MBR infection that I have seen is detectable if you look in the right places. "Stealth" can always be bypassed with a direct BIOS call. In other words, every infection I have seen is recoverable with the right tools (usually DEBUG, FDISK, & SYS). Sometimes it is not worth the bother since repair via E-Mail is somewhat more difficult, but whatever is not corrupted can be retrieved and that which has been corrupted can usually be restored. In general I have found that the stupider the program, the more likely it will work. I am glad that the above said "IN THEORY" since an undetectable, invisible virus that can make a system completely unbootable except from the hard disk just cannot exist. (Note, I am not including access control programs that encrypt the whole disk and rely on input of the key by the user for decryption - this could be made "strong enough" - but a self-contained program cannot. Period. 82 today - what Floridians put up with summer for, Padgett
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