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Article #1125Re: replacing the desktop metaphor (Wives)
From: Wilson Heydt
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1988 06:30
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 1988 06:30
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In article <15191@mimsy.UUCP>, folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) writes:
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> And vi is NOT a word processor by any means. It is TOTALLY line-oriented,
> and has no concept at all of, say, wordwrap. I'm a power vi user, myself
^^^^^^^^
Try "set wordwrap=" and you will find that vi understands it very nicely.
(Given this, please define "power user".)
> (e.g. I've used the @ macro operator since before it was documented), but
> it is painful to do word processing on. Adding nroff doesn't help. Using
> the vi/nroff combination to do word processing is like using a keypunch/batch
> combination to program, it involves multiple steps and gives no immediate
> feedback. Not to mention that much of vi's power is oriented towards programs
> (the %, for example), and it has a hard time even deleting a range of lines
> (unless you want to count lines and use 'dd', you must leave a mark, navigate
> to your intended end of deletion, then delete to the mark--slower than a
> mouse).
I've watched fast typints use vi. These motions are very quick. Locating
a mouse and using doesn't seem to be as fast.
On the bvasic point--I agree. Vi is not a wordprocessor. It is, however
an editor. If one happens not to *care* what the output "looks like"
beyond knowing what nroff will do with it, it is a very effective tool.
Further--unlike many wordprocessing programs--it doesn't leave little
unwanted presents lying about in your text.
> Lastly, you do not have to take your hands off of the keyboard to do things
> in Mac word processors. Most good ones, such as MS Word, have keyboard
> equivalents for anything you can do from the Mouse. You use the mouse because
> you feel like it, or because you need the help finding your command. You
> use the keyboard when you get around to memorizing the things... The best
> of both worlds, which vi does not offer.
The first effective defense I've seen. Interestingly, you are pointing out
features of a program that came from an environment that never had a mouse
as a standard feature, rather than something ported from a mouse-driven
environment. This makes it a one-way operation. This could probably be
done to vi, too, should anyone want to.
--Hal
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!watmath!clyde!att!pacbell!pbhya!whh From: whh@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.sys.next,comp.sys.mac,comp.cog-eng Subject: Re: replacing the desktop metaphor (Wives) Keywords: desktop metaphor, graphical interfaces, computing environments Message-ID: <22627@pbhya.PacBell.COM> Date: 30 Dec 88 06:30:12 GMT References: <22624@pbhya.PacBell.COM> <15191@mimsy.UUCP> Organization: Pacific * Bell, Oakland, CA Lines: 48