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Article #1161Re: fat 32 eh?
From: samiller
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 00:00
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Not. To quote from the title page of the "Novell Netware 3.21 Server Backup" manual (emphasis mine): "All rights reserved. NO PART of this publication may be reproduced, PHOTOCOPIED, stored on a retrieval system, or transmitted without the express written consent of the publisher." Even if basic copyright law in and of itself permits the "fair use" that you describe, how do Novell's retrictions, which are publishing industry standard legalese, differ from the license agreement under which one uses a program? Further, let's be clear about the contribution of major software publishers to the cavalier attitude towards piracy. 15 years ago nearly all PC sytem vendors sold units complete with unauthorized copies of MS-DOS. I'm not just talking about small-timers, either, since the list included the major chains of the time. Do you expect anyone to believe that MS wasn't aware of this? WRT moral and legal equivalence to theft, read your licenses. You don't "own" a program you have purchased, because the vendor didn't transfer any title to you whatsoever. You bought a "use license". While unauthorized use falls into a legal category typically called "theft of service", it is equivalent to carjacking in neither a legal nor a moral sense. What about the infamous "competitive upgrades" promoted by MS and other vendors where the user could send in a copy of the first page of a competitor's product manual and pay a price typical 60-75% lower than retail? Most vendors later added a requirement that an element of the competitor's product be present on a browsable drive to achieve a successful intall, but this was almost as easily faked. Don't these kinds of license violations in theory victimize the vendor and legitimate buyers just as outright piracy does? I suppose the vendors making these offers didn't know what abuses their upgrade policies countenanced? Please! I've seen salesmen from software vendors take the wink-wink-nudge-nudge approach to piracy on numerous occasions. The Software Protection Association and its predecessor typically refused to pursue piracy, even when it was documented to them. I used to be a very strong anti-piracy advocate in the work environment, jeopardizing my job on more than one occasion to push that agenda. While I still believe piracy is wrong, and that good reasons exist FROM THE USER POV not to pirate, I don't take those positions anymore. Why? Because the major software vendors have promoted a piracy culture by taking the issue seriously only when it suited their marketing strategy to do so. And I hate pissing into the wind;>) I _do_ feel sorry for the small software vendors who can't afford to have even a single copy of their work misappropriated. They, and the users who depend on their products, are the true losers here. On Thu, 18 Mar 1999 20:00:29 -0500 Charles Sullivan of InfiNet wrote this re Re: fat 32 eh?: >This is entirely different. Photocopying one or a few pages from a >copyrighted >work is allowed by the law as "fair use". > >Tom MacIntyre wrote in message <36f12f62.20707056@news.wolf>... >>I'd like to know...has anyone here on the moral high ground ever >>photocopied a page out of a copyrighted book?... Scott A. Miller samiller@bix.com samiller@cyberenet.net card carrying member of the Java Conspiracy
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 104cb0,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gid104cb0,public X-Google-Thread: f8083,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gidf8083,public X-Google-Thread: 1020d9,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gid1020d9,public X-Google-Thread: fde9e,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gidfde9e,public X-Google-Thread: 103714,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gid103714,public X-Google-Thread: 1076d4,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gid1076d4,public X-Google-Thread: fff2a,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gidfff2a,public X-Google-Thread: 114543,2a0c37a407e22f1b X-Google-Attributes: gid114543,public From: <samiller@BIX.com> Subject: Re: fat 32 eh? Date: 1999/03/22 Message-ID: <7d5h7v$61e@lotho.delphi.com> X-Deja-AN: 457555150 References: <7cs7j9$u2v$1@nw003t.infi.net> Followup-To: comp.windows.misc Organization: BIX Squire Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,algonet.pc.windows95,alt.os.windows95,alt.windows95,comp.os.ms-windows.win95,comp.os.ms-windows.win95.misc,microsoft.public.win95,microsoft.public.win95.coffeehouse.chat,microsoft.public.win95.general.discussion