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Article #175Re: GUIs Considered Harmful
From: Mr Stephen R Usher
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:25
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:25
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In article <1992Sep10.145345.17065@sophia.smith.edu> jfieber@sophia.smith.edu (John Fieber) writes: >In article <oefiyZO00VAt5mSIYY@andrew.cmu.edu> fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat) writes: >>NeXT scrollbars are the ONLY good implementation of this I have seen - > >Except for one small detail, scrollbars on the Amiga work exactly >like those on the NeXT. (or was that the other way around?) >Difference: clicking in the scrollspace moves the "knob" by the >height (or width) of the knob. The difference is with the Amiga, >I typically do a click to move a short distance and a drag to >move a long distance. The NeXT is just the reverse. Six one, >half a dozen the other I guess. > >>click somewhere in the scroll space and the bar moves right there (the >>bar is also sized proportionally to the visible space / scrollable >>space ratio), move the bar by dragging it around, and the workspace > >I always took proportional scrollbars for granted until I >recently started working on a Mac. If you are going to use up >precious screen space with scroll bars, they should at least >convey as much useful information as possible. In a text editor, >for example, with a proportional scroll bar you can at a quick >glance not only tell where you are in a document, but how big the >document is. > >It really baffles me why other window systems have not adopted >proportional scroll bars. It is not like they are a new concept >or something---the Amiga has been using them for about 7 years >now. (And I seriously doubt Commodore would try to sue anybody >else who used them!) GEM on the Atari range of computers has the same type of scroll bars which work in the same way as the Amiga's ones. The Mac seems to be the od one out in this. > >-john > > >-- >===jfieber@sophia.smith.edu================================================== Steve -- Addresses:- JANET:- ucacmsu@uk.ac.ucl or steve@uk.ac.ox.earth (preferable) Internet:- ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk or steve@earth.ox.ac.uk (preferable)
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mcsun!uknet!bcc.ac.uk!link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk!ucacmsu From: ucacmsu@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Stephen R Usher) Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x,comp.human-factors,alt.religion.computers Subject: Re: GUIs Considered Harmful Message-ID: <1992Sep11.102556.25901@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> Date: 11 Sep 92 10:25:56 GMT References: <1992Sep9.235620.25510@spider.co.uk> <oefiyZO00VAt5mSIYY@andrew.cmu.edu> <1992Sep10.145345.17065@sophia.smith.edu> Sender: news@ucl.ac.uk (Usenet News System) Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London Lines: 47