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>It is actually
>#include <sys/ttycom.h>
>Sun is good at moving TIOCCONS around.

Err, umm, where was MGR finding it in pre-4.0 releases?  If it was
including <sys/ioctl.h> to get it, it should have shown up in 3.x *and*
4.0, and not required this fiddling.  I suspect somebody has outsmarted
themselves here.... 

<sys/ttycom.h> isn't supposed to be directly included by programs.  It
exists so that both <sys/termios.h> and <sys/ioctl.h> can define the tty
driver stuff that's not "tied", if you will, to the BSD or S5 tty
driver.  TIOCCONS was moved to <sys/ttycom.h> so that a program could
get at it without dragging in all the V7/BSD stuff that dragging in
<sys/ioctl.h> defines; such a program would include <sys/termios.h>
(or <sys/termio.h>) instead.

I installed mgr on my Sun-3 (SunOS 3.4) last week.  As has been reported here, the makefiles
have a few problems, but I did manage to get working executables.  After I figured out how
to get printed copies of the man pages, I ran through them one by one to see how things ran.
These are my notes from that experience.  Note that I didn't spend any time investigating
any of this stuff.  If something didn't work, I just noted it and went on.

Cut fails with the message:
	sh: hm: not found
	/usr/mgr/bin/cut: Can't start (hm -s)

Iconmsgs complains about not finding a bounds file.

Lock put up a really pretty outer-space picture, but then wouldn't let me back in!  I had
to rlogin and kill it.

Maze briefly prints something about not finding a service.  When 2 mazes are running, they
don't know about each other.

Menu needs /bin/ksh.  Someone posted that csh works just fine, but I haven't tried it yet.

Typing the command "eval `set_termcap`" complained "unmatched '".

Snap doesn't do anything useful that I can see.  From the man page, I guess I expected to
be able to rubber-band a box bounding the pixels to be saved.  I couldn't get the mouse buttons
to do anything useful.  

Can anybody tell me what I'm doing wrong?  If your answer is RTFM, please send me a real toasty
flame!  It's going to be *cold* in Seattle when that air-mass that's been freezing Alaska starts
sliding south later this week!  :-)

Paul
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In article <9862@bcsaic.UUCP> paula@bcsaic.UUCP (Paul Allen) writes:
>Typing the command "eval `set_termcap`" complained "unmatched '".
>

This one ticked me off for a hour yesterday. Most likely you don't have
your SHELL environment variable set to /bin/csh. That one was in the 
manual. It just took me a while to figure out that it didn't recognize
/usr/local/tcsh as a csh.... ;-)

Ej

In article <19729@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> esj@manatee.cis.ufl.edu (Eric S. Johnson) writes:
>In article <9862@bcsaic.UUCP> paula@bcsaic.UUCP (Paul Allen) writes:
>>Typing the command "eval `set_termcap`" complained "unmatched '".
>>
>
>This one ticked me off for a hour yesterday. Most likely you don't have
>your SHELL environment variable set to /bin/csh. That one was in the 
>manual. It just took me a while to figure out that it didn't recognize
>/usr/local/tcsh as a csh.... ;-)

There's actually a more fundamental problem - you really need to:
	set noglob;eval `set_termcap`

This also tends to be a problem with people trying to use "tset -s" ...
They both spit out "set noglob" commands, but the command isn't accepted
until the entire string is unquoted/escaped, etc., which is too late.
Globbing occurs before command evaluation - thus you get the complaint
about the unmatched quote.
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