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5 total messages Started by Jonas Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:00
Converting NT Domains??
#1554
Author: Jonas
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:00
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Help me

I have 2 PDC and want ONE,
i have heard about a program that can Convert domain controllers

If you know anything about this, please mail me

//Jonas
Re: Converting NT Domains??
#1555
Author: drewgrgich
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 1998 00:00
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If they are both on the same domain,  demote one to a BDC.

If not,  then provided you have enough disk space on the one that you want to
be the NEW BDC to the domain,  re-install NT in a new directory.  This will
give you two 'Windows NT Server' choices at boot.  Make the new installation
a BDC or member server of the now singular PDC.  Assuming all is well,  edit
out the offending info in BOOT.INI and delete the information from the second
hard drive.

I'm not 100% sure this would work,  BTW... It is,  however,  how I'm going to
attempt it this weekend when I fix a similar problem!


In article <353dec37.0@news.alfaskop.net>,
  "Jonas" <jolsson@alfaskop.net> wrote:
> I have 2 PDC and want ONE,
> i have heard about a program that can Convert domain controllers
>
> If you know anything about this, please mail me
>
> //Jonas
>
>


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Re: Converting NT Domains??
#1551
Author: gestay
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <6hmgba$pa8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1,
  drewgrgich@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> If they are both on the same domain,  demote one to a BDC.
>
> If not,  then provided you have enough disk space on the one that you want
to
> be the NEW BDC to the domain,  re-install NT in a new directory.  This will
> give you two 'Windows NT Server' choices at boot.  Make the new installation
> a BDC or member server of the now singular PDC.  Assuming all is well,  edit
> out the offending info in BOOT.INI and delete the information from the
second
> hard drive.
>
> I'm not 100% sure this would work,  BTW... It is,  however,  how I'm going
to
> attempt it this weekend when I fix a similar problem!
>
> In article <353dec37.0@news.alfaskop.net>,
>   "Jonas" <jolsson@alfaskop.net> wrote:
> > I have 2 PDC and want ONE,
> > i have heard about a program that can Convert domain controllers
> >
> > If you know anything about this, please mail me
> >
> > //Jonas
> >
> >
>
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>

1. You can't have 2 PDCs on the same domain.  One Primary domain controller
per domain but you can have an unlimited number of BDCs.

2. You can't convert a PDC to BDC.  The demote option appears only in
special cases which I wouldn't go into here.  You can, however, promote a BDC
to a PDC.

3. Assuming that  you have two PDCs, it follows that you also have 2 domains.
 Decide which one you want to keep then reinstall NT on the other one.  Then
you can make it a BDC for the existing PDC providing the PDC is up and running
and has valid network connection.

_________________
Gerry Estay
gestay@etrade.com

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Re: Converting NT Domains??
#1552
Author: Juan Torres
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 1998 00:00
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The only thing is, you can't demote a PDC to a BDC.  NT won't allow it.
It will however allow you to promote from :
    Server -> BDC
    Server -> PDC
    BDC -> PDC
and I think it will let you demote a BDC -> Server.

The only way to demote a PDC is to reinstall NT.

Juan


drewgrgich@hotmail.com wrote:

> If they are both on the same domain,  demote one to a BDC.
>
> If not,  then provided you have enough disk space on the one that you want to
> be the NEW BDC to the domain,  re-install NT in a new directory.  This will
> give you two 'Windows NT Server' choices at boot.  Make the new installation
> a BDC or member server of the now singular PDC.  Assuming all is well,  edit
> out the offending info in BOOT.INI and delete the information from the second
> hard drive.
>
> I'm not 100% sure this would work,  BTW... It is,  however,  how I'm going to
> attempt it this weekend when I fix a similar problem!
>
> In article <353dec37.0@news.alfaskop.net>,
>   "Jonas" <jolsson@alfaskop.net> wrote:
> > I have 2 PDC and want ONE,
> > i have heard about a program that can Convert domain controllers
> >
> > If you know anything about this, please mail me
> >
> > //Jonas
> >
> >
>
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Re: Converting NT Domains??
#1553
Author: Dunbar
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <6ho5l7$64a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>, gestay@etrade.com wrote:
>In article <6hmgba$pa8$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>#1/1,
>  drewgrgich@hotmail.com wrote:
>>
>> If they are both on the same domain,  demote one to a BDC.
>>
>> If not,  then provided you have enough disk space on the one that you want
>to
>> be the NEW BDC to the domain,  re-install NT in a new directory.  This will
>> give you two 'Windows NT Server' choices at boot.  Make the new installation
>> a BDC or member server of the now singular PDC.  Assuming all is well,  edit
>> out the offending info in BOOT.INI and delete the information from the
>second
>> hard drive.
>>
>> I'm not 100% sure this would work,  BTW... It is,  however,  how I'm going
>to
>> attempt it this weekend when I fix a similar problem!
>>
>> In article <353dec37.0@news.alfaskop.net>,
>>   "Jonas" <jolsson@alfaskop.net> wrote:
>> > I have 2 PDC and want ONE,
>> > i have heard about a program that can Convert domain controllers
>> >
>> > If you know anything about this, please mail me
>> >
>> > //Jonas
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> http://www.dejanews.com/   Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading
>>
>
>1. You can't have 2 PDCs on the same domain.  One Primary domain controller
>per domain but you can have an unlimited number of BDCs.
>
>2. You can't convert a PDC to BDC.  The demote option appears only in
>special cases which I wouldn't go into here.  You can, however, promote a BDC
>to a PDC.
>
>3. Assuming that  you have two PDCs, it follows that you also have 2 domains.
> Decide which one you want to keep then reinstall NT on the other one.  Then
>you can make it a BDC for the existing PDC providing the PDC is up and running
>and has valid network connection.
>
>_________________
>Gerry Estay
>gestay@etrade.com
>
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I work in a multi domain plant.
Statement 1 is true.  You can opnly have 1 PDC per domain.
 
Statement 2 is true and false.  If you have 2 domains and 2 PDCs and are 
trying to go to 1 domain you will need to rebuild one of the PDCs and make a 
BDC when you install NT
BUT
If you have a single domain with 1 PDC and multiple BDCs then you can demote 
the PDC at anytime by promoting one of the BDCs. (Just did this a month ago) 
You can then prepromote the origainal PDC, which is now a BDC to be PDC 
again (Did this yesterday).  You could also promote a different BDC to be a 
PDC.
However you say you cant demote a PDC yt you can promote a BDC.  How would you 
get the original PDC back into the network unless you could demote the 
promoted PDC.

SO yes a PDC can become a BDC and vice-versa.

You can NOT promote a server to be a BDC or a PDC.  The SAM is not stored on a 
server.  You would have to re-install NT on a server to make it a BDC.
This goes the other way as well you can NOT demote a PDC or BDC to be a server 
without re-installing NT

All these concepts are taught in basic Mic. NT courses.
The key to it all is that only one PDC may exist per domain.
There can be as many domains as you want
You can set up trusts between these domains.
There can be as many BDCs in a domain as you want.
There can be as many servers in a domain as you want
There can be as many workstations in a domain as you want.
Any BDC may be promoted to PDC thereby demoting the current PDC to BDC
Servers will remain servers unless rebuilt.

The PDC MUST be the first computer installed.
You can not create a BDC unless there is a domain to put it in.
Same goes for servers and workstations.


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