Need a generalized user interface group.

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6 total messages Started by Craig D. Hubley Fri, 05 Jun 1987 05:44

#756

Author: Craig D. Hubley
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1987 05:44

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> Perhaps we need a group, comp.ui for user interfaces.  Or will the windows
> groups handle it?

I vehemently support a comp.ui group.
Posting to several possibly relevant windows groups, as continues to happen,
simply wastes net.money and prompts indignant reminders from aficionadoes
of the "real" topic.

General features of windowing systems seem to belong only in comp.windows.misc

But there's a lot more to user interfaces than windows...

Alternative input and output devices
- tactile feedback
- audio
- touchscreens
- multimodal (say, mouse and trackball...)

Animation 
- ARK (Alternate Reality Kit)-style interfaces and other visual metaphors
- programming by example
.
.
.
Some of these topics might adequately be covered in other groups,
but clearly there is a sort of gestalt to this topic that doesn't
necessarily exist within even a broad cross-section of other groups.

The issue is, how should humans interact with their technology?

Not whether we need (insert generic window feature here) on the 
(insert generic machine or window package here).

Just an opinion,
Craig

Re: Need a generalized user interface group.

#769

Author: tedcrane
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1987 18:56

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In article <619@unicus.UUCP> craig@unicus.UUCP (Craig D. Hubley) writes:
>I vehemently support a comp.ui group.
>Posting to several possibly relevant windows groups, as continues to happen,
>simply wastes net.money and prompts indignant reminders from aficionadoes
>of the "real" topic.
>
>But there's a lot more to user interfaces than windows...

I agree...the fellow has a good point.   Where's a good place to put discussion
on this topic?

- ted crane, alias (tc)
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Re: Need a generalized user interface group.

#768

Author: Henry Spencer
Date: Mon, 08 Jun 1987 22:11

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> > Perhaps we need a group, comp.ui for user interfaces.  Or will the windows
> > groups handle it?
> 
> I vehemently support a comp.ui group.

A user-interface group should be justified on grounds of traffic, not just
interest.  Real traffic, not hypothetical traffic.  Comp.windows.misc is
hardly an ideal place, and comp.cog-eng isn't really right either, but one
of them (the former, I would suggest) will do until traffic picks up.  It
is a mistake to think that creating a group will automatically create the
traffic that is needed to justify a separate newsgroup.  Have you looked
at comp.std.internat lately?
-- 
"There is only one spacefaring        Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
nation on Earth today, comrade."   {allegra,ihnp4,decvax,pyramid}!utzoo!henry

Re: Need a generalized user interface group.

#771

Author: Bob Weissman
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1987 01:42

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In article <1301@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, tedcrane@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Ted Crane) writes:
> In article <619@unicus.UUCP> craig@unicus.UUCP (Craig D. Hubley) writes:
> >I vehemently support a comp.ui group.
> I agree...the fellow has a good point.   Where's a good place to put discussion
> on this topic?

Several months ago, I posted this exact query to the net.  To make a long
story short, the result was that general user interface discussions should
be carried on in comp.cog-eng, the "cognitive engineering" group.

There was really not enough interest to warrant a whole new newsgroup, as
I asked for "votes" and only recieved about two dozen.

-- 
Bob Weissman
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Re: Need a generalized user interface group.

#770

Author: Ken Yap
Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1987 02:33

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|>But there's a lot more to user interfaces than windows...
|
|I agree...the fellow has a good point.   Where's a good place to put discussion
|on this topic?

Agreed, there is more to UI than windows. So why not start posting stuff
here? When the volume attracts complaints, then a new group can be justified.
Unless somebody is willing to collect votes?

	Ken

Re: Need a generalized user interface group.

#773

Author: twb
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1987 14:55

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In article <340@acornrc.UUCP>, bob@acornrc.UUCP (Bob Weissman) writes:
> In article <1301@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, tedcrane@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Ted Crane) writes:
> > In article <619@unicus.UUCP> craig@unicus.UUCP (Craig D. Hubley) writes:

> I asked for "votes" and only recieved about two dozen.

I vote YES for a .uims group.
Tom.

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