🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: comp.windows.ms.programmer
Article #2315

Re: TP IDE and BC++ IDE (works for me..)

#2315
From: Dave Goldblatt
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 1991 15:55
47 lines
2978 bytes
-=> On 24 Apr 91 21:33:28 GMT, demillo@porter.geo.brown.edu (Rob DeMillo) said:

RD> I'm quickly coming to the conclusion that BC++ for Windows
RD> is a crock. It a great C++ compiler, but as a windows application
RD> builder, its pretty useless. Calling it a much more rounded
RD> package...I dunno.

Say what?  It works perfectly well as a Windows application builder.

RD> Keep in mind that none of my complaints would be valid
RD> if Borland didn't (a) tout BC++ as a windows applications builder, and
RD> (b) pull a Microsoftian move like raising the price a few hundred percent.
RD> If you have tried to do windows programming with it, you'll
RD> know what I mean...the compile cycle is slow, flipping back and
RD> forth between DOS full screen mode and Windows to use their IDE
RD> is obnoxious..the only thing that I really liked about it 
RD> is the resource construction kit...and *they* didn't
RD> even write it.

Regarding (a) it is, and works fine.  What makes you say otherwise?
	Hell, Borland even licensed the WINDOWS.H file from the Microsoft SDK.

Regarding (b): Yup.  They raised the price.  And quite a number of people
	have posted why.  But there's no reason you have to pay anything
	close to list.  You can either upgrade from and Turbo product
	cheaply, or upgrade from Microsoft to TC++ and then to BC++ (last
	I checked, anyway).

Besides, starting and exiting Windows doesn't really bother me, since it's
quite possible to zorch Windows, and thus blow away your compiler.  The
few seconds it takes isn't really an issue.

RD> I dunno...save your money. Anyone know
RD> about Zortec C++ combined with C++ Views?

All of the programmers I know using Zortech (some of whom have since
switched to BC++ :-) run it the sme way -- compile under DOS, and then
run Windows, for the reason given above.  It's safer.  Much more so
than compiling AND testing under Windows when you're doing
system-level programming.

-dg-
--
"Look, folks, you can't save everyone. |  Dave Goldblatt [daveg@clearpoint.com]
  Just try not to be living next to    |  Software Engineering (Subsystems)
  them when they go off."              |  Clearpoint Research Corporation
             - Dennis Miller           |  35 Parkwood Dr., Hopkinton, MA 01748
Technical Details
Message-ID: <DAVEG.91Apr25165502@intruder.clearpoint.com>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!crackers!crackers.clearpoint.com!daveg
References: <1991Apr8.114055.26550@qut.edu.au> <6445@bwdls58.bnr.ca> <73404@brunix.UUCP>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!samsung!crackers!crackers.clearpoint.com!daveg
From: daveg@intruder.clearpoint.com (Dave Goldblatt)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer
Subject: Re: TP IDE and BC++ IDE (works for me..)
Message-ID: <DAVEG.91Apr25165502@intruder.clearpoint.com>
Date: 25 Apr 91 15:55:02 GMT
References: <1991Apr8.114055.26550@qut.edu.au> <6445@bwdls58.bnr.ca> <73404@brunix.UUCP>
Sender: news@crackers.clearpoint.com
Reply-To: daveg@intruder.clearpoint.com
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748
Lines: 47
In-reply-to: demillo@porter.geo.brown.edu's message of 24 Apr 91 21:33:28 GMT