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From: Jess Anderson
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1989 03:40
Date: Sat, 18 Nov 1989 03:40
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Probably most of us have heard that rudest of all
suggestions:
RTFM!
Well, I shoulda.
Hoping to spare at least one other soul a week's grief
and worry, here are the facts (as I know 'em).
In article <2693@dogie.macc.wisc.edu>, I said:
>I'm having a problem with Windows 386. I have a
>new machine, Club American 333C (AMI Bios) with
>a Sigma Laserview 19" monitor and an MSC PC Mouse II.
Further (very relevant) detail:
Western Digital WD7000FASST controller (SCSI, with
Seagate 267N drive).
The problem was: after installing WIN386 umpteen times (that
monitor has its own installation process which makes it all
take even longer), I would try to start it up, the disk
would spin about a second and I'd land back at the DOS
prompt.
>I called Microsoft (it's Windows 386, v. 2.11); no
>help there (nice person, but no help). I called
>Sigma, they tell me I have the latest version of their
>stuff (the monitor is brand new). I called Club American,
>where so far nobody has gotten back to me (maybe they're
>looking into it).
I heard from Club American today, but they had nothing
useful to suggest.
So I turned to You Out There:
>Any suggestions?
A couple folks did respond (since it's email, I won't
identify them, but I *am* very grateful to them).
>Subject: Re: Windows 386 Problems
>I have had similar problems with my 386sx. I have a
>Precision motherboard with 2 Megs of RAM, ATI BIOS and
>ATI VGAWonder VGA card and software. I think I installed
>Windows 386 with the Compaq option, too. However, I just
>used the VGA option in the Windows setup (ie. no special
>driver). When I type Win386 at the prompt, sometimes
>Windows comes up and sometimes I get the Microsoft Windows
>intro screen, but then when it tries to switch to the
>actual windows, it goes back to the DOS prompt. When this
>happens, I can usually just enter "Win386" again and it
>will work this time (or at least the next).
Pretty similar situation to mine, despite the different
monitor. He goes on:
>You may want to try using the VGA (or whatever fits your
>system) option in the setup to use the Windows driver.
>Otherwise, I'm not much help, but I would appreciate you
>forwarding any helpful responses you get to me. Thanks!
This gave me the idea of installing for a Hercules monitor,
since Hercules emulation is built into the Sigma card and
does not require the high-resolution drivers. If that
worked, it would look more like the drivers were the
problem.
So I did that. Still no go, same behavior.
Then I got lucky. I finally tuned in on the fact that the
thing dies while trying to load (the disk whirs, but not
long enough to load that large a program, and it croaks
before the initial screen (Microsoft's ad, dontcha know).
I decided to read all the pertinent documents. Naturally, I
did it in the backwards order (Club, Windows, Laserview,
Western Digital). Here's what fixed it (mostly, not
completely):
The disk controller software comes from Columbia Data
Products. After the disk is set up and all that, you
load two drivers via config.sys:
device=c:\dev\sstbio.sys
device=c:\dev\sstdrive.sys
The first of these has to do with making the ROM information
readily available to the controller. Come to find out it
takes options, one of them to create a 64K load buffer of
some sort *for Windows* (says it there plain as day!).
Changed my config.sys to read:
device=c:\dev\sstbio.sys /w
rebooted, and (wondrous) it worked!
Still a bit flakey, though, because it just works *once*. If
I exit from Windows and reload, Windows loads as far as the
opening screen, then hangs and needs to cold boot to get
unhung.
I got another suggestion via email that may touch on this
question and may also help the first person who wrote. I
haven't tried it yet (am presently at home):
>Subject: Re: Windows 386 Problems
>I had a similar problem except that the disk would
>sometimes return after 20 seconds to a minute, and
(patient fellow, eh? :-)
>sometimes return with an error message. You might try
>adding the following statement to the WIN.INI file, it
>worked for me.
> VIRTUALHDIRQ=OFF
>This switch forces windows to use the disk drivers in the
>bios instead of its own.
Thanks, I'll give that a whirl on Monday. Just proves that
reading is good for your health. I mean, I've been doing
this computing stuff for 34 years and I *still* can't
believe any of it works!
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