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In article <1990Nov14.225552.4015@agate.berkeley.edu> c60c-3fz@web-1e.berkeley.edu (In Sik Rhee) writes:
>In article <6452@gssc.UUCP> geoffs@gssc.UUCP (Geoff Shapiro) writes:
>>In article <1519@berlioz.nsc.com> my@berlioz.UUCP (Michael Yip) writes:
>>>Anyhow, the NEC Graphics Engine is a good card, but I would 
>>>probably buy the Hercule one just to support the American 
>>>inductrial.  ;)
>>>
>>>-- Mike
>>>   my@dtg.nsc.com
>>
>>My company designed the MGE for NEC and we wrote the software for it. By
>>buying a NEC MGE you ARE supporting American industry! Besides, how many
>>parts on the Hercules Graphics Station really were made in the good old
>>US of A anyway?
>>
>>
>
>Zap me if I'm wrong, but doesn't NEC stand for Nippon Electronics Corporation
>or something like that?  It's one of the largest Japanese Electronics Firms
>out there...  I don't see how buying a Japanese product would support
>American industry.

I don't think that I really want to get into an extended you're right, I'm
right, type of argument (but a short argument might be fine 8-)). BUT, have
you ever heard of royalties? Every MGE which is sold helps to pay my paycheck.
I'm American, born in New York, working in Oregon. My company is American. So,
it is true that buying MGE cards does go towards supporting American industry.

And how much of the American public gets fooled into buying American without
really knowing where the product they are buying is produced? It's real
common (especially in the computer and auto industry) for American companies
to sell products manufactured in countries where it is cheaper to make. This
whole argument is muddied by reality.

>As for Hercules, they're located about 2 miles from where I sit, right 
>in Berkeley, CA.  and to the best of my knowledge, their product (the

Yep, Hercules is undoubtedly an American corporation, no argument there. But
like I said in my original message -- do you actually know how many parts
on the Graphics Station card were manufactured in and bought from American
companies by Hercules? Maybe I am wrong, but I would be willing to bet that
a major percentage of the components on the card are bought from Japanese
companies.

>Graphics Station) is far superior than the NEC Graphics Engine, which
>I think is becoming obsolete...  True, the Graphics Engine is a standard,

Just your opinion (as you state below). I have many messages from people on
Compuserve that would love to argue this point with you.

>but it's been out in the market for a while... while it may have been
>a great innovation at its release, it hasn't really gone anywhere as far
>as newer implementations, etc (kind of like the Video-7 VRAM card)

What other features do competing 34010 cards offer that the MGE doesn't? Sure,
the Graphics Station offers 24 bpp but have you noticed the plethora of sw
which supports that mode (or lack of it)? and the speed at which the sw which
does, runs? The MGE still has innovations on it which make it superior for
text output and pattern fills which haven't yet been matched by other
34010 cards.

And as far as price/performance (from a previous msg by you), please give me
some solid figures as far as the base price of the Graphics Station (and what
you get for that price). What does it take in terms of any additional upgrades
and money for those upgrades to get the adapter to run at 1024x768x256? I'd
like some info here because I am ignorant of the Graphics Station's pricing
structure.

>Just my opinions... I'm in no way affliated with Hercules, blah blah etc

Thanks. I am (indirectly) affiliated with NEC but still feel that my
opinions are fairly objective.


Now perhaps we could return this newsgroup back to issues more relevant to
Microsoft Windows?

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