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In article <1992Sep28.084311.18791@a.cs.okstate.edu> saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL) writes:
>I have a 386/40 compatible & win 3.1.
>
>1. How can I want always start windows in 386 enhanced mode ?
>
>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>
>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>        . . .
>
Your two questions have the same answer.  Change RAM to NOEMS.

Note to everybody:  It's really worth spending some time with the
chapters in the DOS 5 and Win 3.1 user's guides on configuring and
optimizing the system.  

-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems                      brown@Ncoast.ORG
Cleveland, Ohio, USA

brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:

>In article <1992Sep28.084311.18791@a.cs.okstate.edu> saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL) writes:
>>I have a 386/40 compatible & win 3.1.
>>
>>1. How can I want always start windows in 386 enhanced mode ?
>>
>>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>>
>>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>>        . . .
>>
>Your two questions have the same answer.  Change RAM to NOEMS.

>Note to everybody:  It's really worth spending some time with the
>chapters in the DOS 5 and Win 3.1 user's guides on configuring and
>optimizing the system.  

Just be aware that that disables the EMS (Expanded memory) support and if
the expanded memory isn't being used then it will make very little
difference.

Mark
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In article <1992Sep28.084311.18791@a.cs.okstate.edu> saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL) writes:
>I have a 386/40 compatible & win 3.1.
>
>1. How can I want always start windows in 386 enhanced mode ?
>
>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>
>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>        . . .
>
>Any help towards better installation will be appreciated.
>-- 
First you got start windows by c:win/3 then you are in enhanced
now, go to control panel and double click the 386 enhanced mode
icon. Choose virtual memmory and then following by change settings
enable the 32bit access by clicking the box beside the statement
, at the bottom of the window. That's it, now every time you start
win it will be in enhanced mode !! Happy Windowing !!

In article <BvBGGL.4o4@NCoast.ORG> brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.084311.18791@a.cs.okstate.edu> saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL) writes:
>>I have a 386/40 compatible & win 3.1.
>>
>>1. How can I want always start windows in 386 enhanced mode ?
>>
>>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>>
>>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>>        . . .
>>
>Your two questions have the same answer.  Change RAM to NOEMS.
>
>Note to everybody:  It's really worth spending some time with the
>chapters in the DOS 5 and Win 3.1 user's guides on configuring and
>optimizing the system.  
>

but the thing is, Borland C++ 3.1 will not load in DOS (at least on
my 386/40) with QEMM386 with the NOEMS switch

my usuall setyup is device=qemm.sys ram noems .. is there someting
wrong with using both switches, well hen i took NOEMS off, BC++ (DOS)
workds fine.. and that was also in the little install booklet in the
BC++ pacakgae... ? any ideas?

>-- 
>Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems                      brown@Ncoast.ORG
>Cleveland, Ohio, USA


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>>1. How can I want always start windows in 386 enhanced mode ?

win /3

However, the story is not that simple, a lot has to do with your system
config.
	a 80x86 family CPU where x >= 3
	4+ Mb of RAM with approx. 2.5 - 3 available.
and maybe other minor  things, but can't think of any off hand..

>>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>>
>>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>>        . . .

Recommend the first few lines of config.sys (with DOS 5.0):

DEVICE=HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=EMM386.EXE RAM   <-- subject to other applications
DOS=HIGH,UMB
DEVICEHIGH=		<-- whatever device
   :
   :
BUFFERS=2		<-- reduce buffers size for SMARTDRV.EXE

And in autoexec.bat put

SMARTDRV

do not LOADHI it, since it loads it self high.

The above are few of the most basic things you can do with 4Mb of RAM
and DOS 5.0.

In article <1992Oct7.010738.4066@ra.msstate.edu>, cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:
> In article <BvBGGL.4o4@NCoast.ORG> brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep28.084311.18791@a.cs.okstate.edu> saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL) writes:
>>>I have a 386/40 compatible & win 3.1.
>>>
>>>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>>>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>>>
>>>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>>>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>>>        . . .
Myself i have nothing but DOS itself loaded high. I think Windows can 
make use of all memory itself. So i porbably don't need the EMM386.

> but the thing is, Borland C++ 3.1 will not load in DOS (at least on
> my 386/40) with QEMM386 with the NOEMS switch

It should load fine. Just be sure to include the \BORLANDC\BIN directory
in the PATH! Possibly you will also have to add the /X switch to the 
BC commandline.
Anyway i am almost sure that BC will work if you run it from Windows. 
BC makes use of DPMI memory provided by Windows or its own driver DPMILOAD.
There is no point to use EMM386 or QEMM to simulate EMS-memory if it's not
really required. BTW, programs that uses EMS are in my opinion old programs.
New programs uses eighter XMS, DPMI or VCPI memory management.

> my usuall setyup is device=qemm.sys ram noems .. is there someting
> wrong with using both switches, well hen i took NOEMS off, BC++ (DOS)
> workds fine.. and that was also in the little install booklet in the
> BC++ pacakgae... ? any ideas?  
Did you try to remove RAM instead of NOEMS?

Sten
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============================================================================

In article <1992Oct9.140701.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi> swesterback@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.010738.4066@ra.msstate.edu>, cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans) writes:
>> In article <BvBGGL.4o4@NCoast.ORG> brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep28.084311.18791@a.cs.okstate.edu> saeed@a.cs.okstate.edu (SAEED FAISEL) writes:
>>>>I have a 386/40 compatible & win 3.1.
>>>>
>>>>2. How can I make windows to make most use of the 4 MB ram ?
>>>>   I am currently using the following config.sys
>>>>
>>>>	DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS
>>>>        DOS=HIGH,UMB
>>>>        DEVICE=C:\DOS\EMM386.SYS 1024 RAM
>>>>        . . .
>Myself i have nothing but DOS itself loaded high. I think Windows can 
>make use of all memory itself. So i porbably don't need the EMM386.
>
>> but the thing is, Borland C++ 3.1 will not load in DOS (at least on
>> my 386/40) with QEMM386 with the NOEMS switch
>
>It should load fine. Just be sure to include the \BORLANDC\BIN directory
>in the PATH! Possibly you will also have to add the /X switch to the 
>BC commandline.
>Anyway i am almost sure that BC will work if you run it from Windows. 
>BC makes use of DPMI memory provided by Windows or its own driver DPMILOAD.
>There is no point to use EMM386 or QEMM to simulate EMS-memory if it's not
>really required. BTW, programs that uses EMS are in my opinion old programs.
>New programs uses eighter XMS, DPMI or VCPI memory management.
>
>> my usuall setyup is device=qemm.sys ram noems .. is there someting
>> wrong with using both switches, well hen i took NOEMS off, BC++ (DOS)
>> workds fine.. and that was also in the little install booklet in the
>> BC++ pacakgae... ? any ideas?  
>Did you try to remove RAM instead of NOEMS?
>
>Sten
>============================================================================
>B.Sc. Sten Westerback         Telephone: +358+0 +5115871(work) +740049(home)
>Address: Mets{purontie  9 B19, SF-00630 Helsinki, FINLAND  Time zone: EET
>Test the utility at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.mil::pd1:<msdos.dirutl>swxd303d.zip
>NB! I am working, but not speaking for Nokia Telecommunications!
>============================================================================
You might check to see if you need to add the x=x000-xfff next to the emm386 
line. This is done if you have a network card on your PC