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Basile STARYNKEVITCH <basile@soleil.serma.cea.fr> writes:
>I was a (happy) former NeWS programmer - now i'm using X. Some rumors

	Boy do I *know* that feeling.  I have tempered my thoughts
	regarding X (olvwm, XView, UIT, XV++, et al. have all helped
	tremendously), but I wistfully remember the elegant days.

>are saying that Sun will give up NeWS (in particular, some people

	I have heard this extremely unfortunate rumor also.

>expect Sun online HELP and AnswerBook to become a X11 only product). I
>still hope that:
[stuff deleted]

	How about Sun donating the NeWS src to MIT?  If they are truly
	going to give it up, then it is not going to hurt them to give
	the thing to MIT, then we can still use the very cool
	HyperLook.

> b) eventually X12, or any other successor of X11 (eg a programmable,
>   enhanced 8 1/2 window server from Plan 9), will be some kind of
>   programmable, and with an imaging model in between X11 (pixels) and
>   NeWS (complex shapes).

	This was exactly Owen Densmore's (inventor of the NeWS classing
	mechanism) thought way back at a Usenix in Baltimore (2 - 3
	years ago?)

>I know that i'm currently dreaming... I still hope that i will not
>program with X11 in 2010!! For multi-media, high resolution screens,
>X11 will be not enough (too much bandwidth, too hard to program).

	You got that right.  But from docs that I have read (Sun...
	please tell me that this is wrong) it seems that SunSoft's
	Project DOE assumes X is the windowing system.  I hope I have
	read this incorrectly.

	It's interesting that the person giving the multimedia
	presentation at the last SUG conference said that the multimedia
	stuff would all be implemented over X.  When I asked why
	not the net-efficient NeWS, I got silence.

	Frank G.

	NeWS is a programmer's playground; X is a prison.  You don't
	get paid for playing in the playground these days, but you can
	make some decent money in the license plate business.
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