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Re: has sun shot it in th

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From: Frank Greco
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 21:36
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In article <1992Oct3.4589.1378@dosgate> "michael livsey" <michael.livsey@canrem.com> writes:
>Openwindows V 3.0 uses News as its core; so does Solaris 2.0. I assume from

	OpenWindows 3.X uses Shapes as its core.  X *and* NeWS windows
	are at a higher layer.

>this announcement that Sun is still committed to display postscript, but they
                               ^^^^^

	Sun was never, ever committed to display postscript, the Adobe
	product.  Back in 1987(ish), Adobe and Sun just could not sit 
	down and hammer out an equitable agreement to fold NeWS and PS.
	Adobe wanted RIP-sized licensing, Sun balked.

>plan to let Adobe develop the standard implementation.

	This appears to be very true.  You don't have to be a genius
	to figure out that NeWSPrint will have to be renamed soon.

>Regardless of the Adobe agreement, Sun has been sending out vibes to
>developers that people should be developing Openwindows applications using
>the OLIT package (MOTIF equivalent) not TNT or News. This may change with the

	The windows marketing person told me this too.  But who the
	heck uses OLIT?  Perhaps 5% of the app pgmrs out there?  It's
	so darn ugly, unlike XView (programming models aside).  And
	why does Sun continue to develop their own products and internal
	software with XView?  Is it that XView is so darn easy to pgm
	with?

	btw, despite my tremendous admiration for TNT/NeWS/HyperLook, I
	wouldn't touch it with a 10 meter probe.  I'll still play with
	SimCity though; Don Hopkin's  phenomenal TNT work on SimCity
	(very, very impressive) just knocks me out.  How AnswerBook
	will be quickly engineered without the NeWS input mechanism is
	a mystery to me.

>Adobe announcement; I'm not sure which the way the wind currently blows at Sun.

	After following Sun's windowing directions for the past 6 or so
	years, I am convinced they don't know either.

	Sun wants you to believe that IBM, DEC and HP killed NeWS and
	TNT... don't believe it.  
	
	Sun killed NeWS.  I have the scars to prove it.

	Frank G.
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