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   Date: 23 Feb 87 19:44:43 GMT
   From: cartan!weyl.Berkeley.EDU!rusty@ucbvax.berkeley.edu  (Rusty Wright)

   In article <8702211303.AA01735@gjetost.wisc.edu> solomon@GJETOST.WISC.EDU (Marvin Solomon) writes:
   >...
   >
   >What's the solution?  I think it is to get rid of the idea of window
   >manager as a separate process, and build "window-manager" functions
   >into all windows.

   That scares me.  Wouldn't we then have the problem that suntools has
   where the suntool binaries are huge?  On my sun 3/50 the suntools
   program itself is 728 blocks and the various other tools that run
   under suntools are 952 blocks.  Yuck.

   How about setting up some sort of standard?  For example, all window
   managers must use control+shift when the mouse is in a window or an
   icon, and when it's in the background the control+shift is optional.

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	   rusty c. wright
	   rusty@weyl.berkeley.edu
	   ucbvax!weyl!rusty

I see just the same problem with XToolKit. I would like to see the
ToolKit as a client that you would normally run on the same machine as
the server, for speed. Interactive widgets would be much more
interactive, you wouldn't have to have a copy of the whole library in
every client, and there would be just one client to configure. The big
question is how do your clients communicate with it?  Are the
facilities in X11 sufficient? Or would it be a good idea to adopt some
other standard for communication between clients?  At the X
conference, it was said that the X11 server should be used by clients
to rendezvous with each other, but not as a primary means of
communication. Why is that?

Setting a standard on any kind of key or mouse bindings would be evil.
The window manager should be as transparent as possible. It solves
lots of problems for it to be able to send any event to the clients.
For example, how about function to quote an event that the window
manager would normally intercept, and send it on?

Perhaps the window manager is the place to put the ToolKit? 

	-Don