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Article #38418Re: Licensing charges for X11R6.4
From: Christopher Browne
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:00
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1998 00:00
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On 08 Apr 1998 13:07:58 +0100, James Youngman <JYoungman@vggas.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Wheeler <ric@jaws.osf.org> writes: > > Richard> We actually like linux & the free software hacker community > Richard> and try to be good citizens. Constructive suggestions > Richard> about how to meet both of the goals, I would guess, will be > Richard> welcomed by the X folks. > >I think it was posted by somebody in another thread, so you missed it. > >A solution that would make software-freedom advocates happy is a dual >release; one release under the GPL (or the traditional MIT or XC >licenses), and a second release under any commercial terms TOG sees >fit. When it is clear that there is legitimate desire for multiple sorts of licenses, this suggests that perhaps the GPL is, in this case, not quite the right choice. XFree86 is distributed under a "BSDL" sort of license, which has the multiple benefits that: a) Linux users and developers have been happy with the arrangement for lo many years now. b) FreeBSD users and developers have been happy with the arrangement for lo many years now. c) NetBSD users and developers have been happy with the arrangement for lo many years now. d) OpenBSD users and developers have been happy with the arrangement for a somewhat shorter period of time. e) Companies like Metro Link and Xi Graphics have been free to add in support for graphics cards that could not be added in a GPLed version due to NDAs. (Perhaps the NDA is of questionable morality within the "free software community." It is nonetheless quite legal.) The implementations of X that people have been using for "lo many years now" have generally been the "Sample Implementation." If you actively *want* to have the SI adopted by everyone, whether in commercial or "free" realms, the BSDL is preferable as it allows them all to use it in whatever fashion they prefer. The problem that has come up lately is that responsibility for development of X fell fully into the hands of those that use it commercially. There was no formal/official representation in TOG of the interests of non-commercial users of X. Which is not, strictly speaking, either a legal problem or a technical problem. It is a political problem. It is also important that the "pendulum" not swing too far back in the other direction. Supposing, as an alternative, the "free folk" stand wholeheartedly behind TXP, and push for active rejection TOG as well as commercial representation, then this has the opposite result. Commercial users of X would find the change unacceptable, and legitimately have a similar complaint to what "free users" currently have. Being cooperative is important. Which is quite clearly what the people at TXP intend to be. -- "Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler." - Albert Einstein cbbrowne@hex.net - <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f5392,52a7d0603b3785c8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf5392,public X-Google-Thread: 103734,86da7ae04163a8d8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103734,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,3a5d9420bb3916cb,start X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: f4bda,52a7d0603b3785c8 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4bda,public X-Google-Thread: fcfb9,52a7d0603b3785c8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfcfb9,public From: cbbrowne@news.amrcorp.com (Christopher Browne) Subject: Re: Licensing charges for X11R6.4 Date: 1998/04/08 Message-ID: <6ggboo$e93@george.sabre.com> X-Deja-AN: 342142713 References: <6ft5un$mlv$1@woodstock.socs.uts.EDU.AU> <6g16kk$avf$1@hubble.csuchico.edu> <6g184a$783$1@palladium.transmeta.com> <6g5ijo$cs3$1@mamenchi.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> <6g8trj$m01$1@palladium.transmeta.com> <ysf90ph3gch.fsf@jaws.osf.org> <u1vhskms81.fsf@noisy.vggas.com> Organization: The SABRE Group Reply-To: cbbrowne@hex.net Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.system,gnu.misc.discuss